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What is th earliest AC tractor still in existance? What is th earliest AC tractor still running? Any pictures?
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Far as I know the earlist known is a 10-18 belonging to  Dave Pfouts. it is restored.

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The 10-18 was the first model. There are some 6-12's out there which was the second model built.

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But the Pfouts 10-18 is the lowest serial number known to exist....
 
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Don't suppose there are any Tractor-trucks know to exist?
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Here is a shot of the tractor in 2004.  NY GOTO.
 
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Glad to see he is not scared to drive it around like some are. I can't stand those trailer queens. Although they look nice, people tend to forget that they were meant to work to show off their beauty (both inside and out!).
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 Very nice picture Glenn, I bet Morton likes that green color! Opps, I do apolagize, the green gremlins must have made me say that...Harvey
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Anybody know the tractor number of that 10-18?
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   So, If I am correct Dave Pfouts would be # 1273 ? I see four of the 10-18's known of have no number, are these newer ?
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Originally posted by Harvey/pa Harvey/pa wrote:

 Very nice picture Glenn, I bet Morton likes that green color! Opps, I do apolagize, the green gremlins must have made me say that...Harvey
Harvey, do ya suppose that if Morton had it he would paint the red yellow!?!?!?
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 Who knows, Lou? I give up trying to figure out what these youngsters think but his city friends would probably like it lol...Harvey
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There was a 10-18 that used to come to Amana several years ago. Don't know who owned it or where they were from though.
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   Where is the serial number on a 10-18 or 6-12 ?

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Dont know about a 10-18 but the 6-12 is stamped intop of the fuel tank if I remember correctly
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 I believe there is supposed to be a serial number on the cast metal plate below the radiator on the 10-18 and seems like I was told somewhere on the front of the frame but I may be mistaken.
 


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1929 20-35 sn17662
B1 w/snow blade
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To see serial # you need to take the front wheel post off where it bolts to frame.I have pictures of Dave and Marks  10-18 when they had it down to the last bolt and nut .Will post pictures tonight .They restored the tractor in Larry Leitzow's shop .
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so,what year would these tractors be?
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I don't have a clue!  I would look at Fred's new garage, in the "secret room", sure he has it, it will be there soon! lol   He sure does get what can't be found!
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He don't have an IB pintle hitch yet............  LOL
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   REPDLP, The first 10-18, which I believe was the final prototype, was built in 1914. Production continued until 1923. No records are known to exist of serial numbers therefore specific dating of each tractor is unkown. According to Norm Swinford there was only one built in 1914.

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   I was just thinking, two of the surviving 6-12's are known to be model year 1919 and one of the 18-30's is a 1919. It is very possible the oldest surviving Allis Chalmers tractor might be a 6-12 or 18-30.



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   Fred, that 18-30 is yours, isn't it ?
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Early serial numbers are the ending number for each year
Model1910191119121913191419151916191719181919
10-18----Began????qty 71
6-12---------qty 303
E 18-30
& 20-35
--------5000 to
5005
5160

1920's 

Model1920192119221923192419251926192719281929
10-18qty 31qty 45qty 38qty 4------
6-12qty 467qty 72qty 249qty 211qty 99qty 62qty 8---
E 18-30
& 20-35
60146160none639667547368806998691676123251
L 15-25-20001 to
20334
2049720905209952137021681217057521591533
U 19-30---------1974


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It appears from this chart from the old web site that the 10-18 and the 6-12 did not have serial numbers. only the number of units built each year.

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I've had the pleasure to meet Dave and Mark on a couple occasions during visits to Larry's place.  Very nice people to talk with and be around.  Dave even let me and my brother Todd take a tour of their place...lots of cool stuff there to look at.
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Dave .....
 
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Yes my 18-30 is a 1919 .It's the oldest 18-30 on record as i am told by Larry S and Norm M. .
Like Larry S. said there are ONLY a hand full of pre 1920 tractor in Allis Chalmers that are known of !
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