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Putnamd17
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Topic: What gas to runPosted: 14 hours 55 minutes ago at 8:49pm |
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I recently went through and resealed the engine on my d17 gasser and was wondering what fuel everyone runs in these older tractors or what additives they put in the tank. It won’t get ran very much just a little garden work but it’s restored now so I want to take care of it thanks.
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DiyDave
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Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 54423 |
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Posted: 14 hours 50 minutes ago at 8:54pm |
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Best thing to do is to turn the petcock valve at the fuel bowl off, and let the tractor run out of gas at the carb(for long term storage). That way whatever gas you use isn't in the carb to go bad...
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55allis
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Posted: 14 hours 40 minutes ago at 9:04pm |
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You can also use SeaFoam in premium, ethanol free gas, stuff I get is good up to two years it says on the bottle.
But couple of garden tractors I have that sit most of the time (gas with SeaFoam is older than 2 years) will still run pretty much full power. |
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 14 hours 32 minutes ago at 9:12pm |
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Illinois switched to 10% ethanol prior to 1989... I bought a new F250 that year.. EVERYTHING i have, truc, car, mower, weedeater, chainsaw, several tractors , 4 wheelers have all been running 10% for 35 years..
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: 12 hours 25 minutes ago at 11:19pm |
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If it sits around much go with non ethanol
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DanielW
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Posted: 10 hours 10 minutes ago at 1:34am |
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Others will definitely disagree, but here's my own opinion (reply copied from one I wrote a few days ago on another forum):
I used to drain and run dry all my tractors and small engines. I then found that I had better luck just putting a good dose of stabilizer in the tank, running it for a bit to get some stabilizer through the system, and keeping the tank full to prevent condensation. Back when I ran them dry, it seemed like one out of every 10 engines or so would need a carb cleaning and/or float un-sticking the next year. I think probably more so with tractors that have cast carb bowls and bare steel lines, where running them dry means the steel/cast is exposed to air and might rust. Better to keep them full of fuel in my opinion. Never had a problem since I started keeping them full. I just fired up a gasser Fordson yesterday that hadn't been ran since November 2023. It fired up instantly, and went to work on the chipper just dandy. Nothing but regular E10 fuel and a good dose of stabilizer in the tank. I also now use regular fuel and don't worry about the ethanol content. I've completely flip-flopped on this one. I used to be obsessive about buying premium with no ethanol content. But now I just buy whatever regular gas is closest, and put a good dose of that Lucas upper cylinder lubricant & stabilizer combo in all of my fuel. If I know I'm going to be adding more fuel before winter, I use a shot of two-stroke oil rather than the Lucas stuff, because I just want the lubricity and don't need the stabilizer. Haven't noticed any difference from premium - Neither with my old gassers that get the heck worked out of them (Allis 180 on the round-baler and Ford logging units) nor with the gasser toys (Fordsons, Cockshutts, W6, etc.) that see minimal use and sit for months at a time. If you let a lot of moisture accumulate in your tanks there is a 'slight' concern about fuels with ethanol in them separating/stratifying if they sit for an extended period. But you have to have a heck of a lot of condensation/moisture accumulate for that to happen, and also have them sit for a heck of a long time. Even at our Southern farm in the Great Lakes region with constant high humidity and heavy condensation on every surface every morning for most of the year, it's never been a concern. Marine engines would be about the only time I'd be concerned about it. I've also flip-flopped in my beliefs and I'm now a fan of ethanol fuel: Commodity crop prices are so low that we need all the help/markets we can get for our crops. And ethanol/bio production is a huge part of that market. Without it, the price of corn/beans would tank even more than it already has. Another poster on that other forum made some good points: The 'problems' people experience with ethanol are usually other problems that the ethanol brings to light. Folks leave their lawnmower out all winter or store their tractors with the tank only 1/4 full. Condensation/moisture gets in, the gas sits on top of the moisture (gas being less dense than water), it sucks through a slug of water when they go to crank it next year and won't start. And they blame the ethanol content for 'separating' rather than their own storage practices which allowed water to enter. Ethanol is also pretty good at cleaning tanks/fuel systems, so if your tank and lines have a lot of crud built up in them, it can clean it off and the crud will then plug up lines and carbs. But it's no reason not to use ethanol. Once your tank and system are clean, the ethanol fuels will do a better job of keeping them clean.
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AaronSEIA
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Posted: 6 hours 4 minutes ago at 5:40am |
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Been burning E15 since it came out. E10 before that. No additives, supplements, anything. Zero fuel related issues.
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IBWD MIke
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Posted: 5 hours 41 minutes ago at 6:03am |
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Short story; I've had bad luck with ethanol.
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WF owner
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Posted: 5 hours 37 minutes ago at 6:07am |
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I, personally, haven't experienced the "gas going bad" problem that a lot of people talk about.
None of my tractors do any work. They are all toys and sit around, sometimes for months at a time. This week, I started three tractors for the first time this year, to move them so I could rearrange some of our (oversize) Halloween decorations that we took down. Like some other posters, I started out using only ethanol-free gas. I now buy "regular" unleaded (10% ethanol) and haven't experienced any fuel related problems. I do occasionally use Seafoam in tractors that don't get started very often, but it's more for my peace of mind, than because of any problems.
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ac160
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Posted: 4 hours 22 minutes ago at 7:22am |
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I run no ethanol premium and put some stabil in the tank for all my gas equipment an haven't had any issues. Some of them don't get started very often, and zero issues.
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19F150
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Posted: 2 hours 3 minutes ago at 9:41am |
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I put lead additive in the gas
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HoughMade
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Posted: 1 hour 51 minutes ago at 9:53am |
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I run E10 with Sta Bil 360.
Thanks to an EPA order, ethanol free is not available locally. Not at all, no where. I could go several counties away, but I have had no fuel-related issues with my B running the fuel bowl dry every time I run it. The big issues with ethanol are rubber and water. Pretty much no rubber in a B fuel system. I have not had any issues with water.
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