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youngorange2000 
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Posted: 15 Oct 2022 at 7:52pm |
 anyone know what these two welded shut lines are for they are located in front of the passenger side brake assembly. Thanks in advance
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DSeries4
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Posted: 15 Oct 2022 at 7:59pm |
Can you zoom out for a better shot? The entire hydraulic valve body is in front of the brake assembly.
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youngorange2000
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Posted: 15 Oct 2022 at 8:07pm |
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This is located about 6 inches behind the main hydraulic spools and pd valve
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Lynn Marshall
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Posted: 15 Oct 2022 at 8:15pm |
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That's the PTO valve body.
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Alex09(WI)
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Posted: 15 Oct 2022 at 10:23pm |
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My best guess is someone removed the hyd pto clutch from the torque tube and capped off the lines from the pto valve.
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youngorange2000
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Posted: 17 Oct 2022 at 6:05pm |
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Is it possible my tractor had a hydraulic pto at some time? It has a decal on the side of the counsel for the PTO but no lever it has the pull knob on the floor
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DrAllis
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Posted: 17 Oct 2022 at 6:24pm |
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The valve is there. So, they removed the lever.
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youngorange2000
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Posted: 17 Oct 2022 at 6:52pm |
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Is it possible my tractor has both types of PTO? If so why would they disable the hydraulic pto?
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Alex09(WI)
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Posted: 17 Oct 2022 at 8:20pm |
For simplicity's sake, it is not possible to have both. You have 1 or the other. If you still had the hyd pto clutch, your pto would not work because there is no hyd pressure to engage it, regardless of moving the knob by the platform.
The hyd pto enables the operator to engage and disengage the pto independently of the foot clutch. It is not live PTO, because you don't have to use the foot clutch to engange it. And its not really independent PTO because in an emergency, the operator can use his reflex to slam in the clutch pedal to stop all powered motion. I might label it as semi-independent pto??
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Posted: 17 Oct 2022 at 8:21pm |
 youngorange2000 wrote:
Is it possible my tractor has both types of PTO? If so why would they disable the hydraulic pto? |
You would have to ask the previous owner why they disabled it. Only they would know.
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