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Which A/C hay rake?
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    Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 5:28pm
If you had the choice between a PTO driven rake or a ground driven, which would you choose?  It would be used to rake sudan or coastal bermuda for hay.  The PTO driven one is a 4-bar, looks like a standard and the ground drive looks like a 5-bar 77G with the chain drive.  
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I use a NH super 55 which is ground drive and it does a pretty good job especially for being 60 some odd years old. I like the idea of a PTO drive rake because ground speed isn't as important but I've heard the 3pt rakes don't follow contours real well
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my father had a 3pt pto driven unit. Hated it except when you entered or left the field, at which you could lift and move on. Otherwise, I agree with thendrix that they do not follow the field contours very well.
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If you are talking about a AC pto rake, I pulled one over many acres. The basket is too long for anything but flat ground. Was in hog heaven when it broke and dad bought a new 640 JD 3 wheeler. I resurected an AC pto rake several years ago for old times sake. It did the same thing as dads old rake. I now use a New Holland 3 wheeler.
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They're both A/C rakes and both tongue pull, best I could find for the PTO rake is a 'standard' model.  Trying to figure out which one would be the best to drop $$ into to use on heavy grass like the sudan and lighter like the bermuda.

The 77 has a wood block to tension the chain - is that original?
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I have both a standard and 2 77g.  one old and new chain 77g.  the later chain used a different shaft and brg arraignment...much better! 

both work great but not on rough land.  I have blown the casting apart on the early 77g twice.  the 2nd time it required replacement parts so I bought all I could find.  keep the slip joint in the drive shaft well lubed and smooth.  rust will bind under load and push the drive shaft out of casting when it hits a bump and bottoms out the basket.
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