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Which A/C hay rake?

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Topic: Which A/C hay rake?

Posted By: Dwayne TX
Subject: Which A/C hay rake?
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 5:28pm

If you had the choice between a PTO driven rake or a ground driven, which would you choose? It would be used to rake sudan or coastal bermuda for hay. The PTO driven one is a 4-bar, looks like a standard and the ground drive looks like a 5-bar 77G with the chain drive.

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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 5:58pm

I use a NH super 55 which is ground drive and it does a pretty good job especially for being 60 some odd years old. I like the idea of a PTO drive rake because ground speed isn't as important but I've heard the 3pt rakes don't follow contours real well

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Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 7:29pm

my father had a 3pt pto driven unit. Hated it except when you entered or left the field, at which you could lift and move on. Otherwise, I agree with thendrix that they do not follow the field contours very well.

Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 9:55pm

If you are talking about a AC pto rake, I pulled one over many acres. The basket is too long for anything but flat ground. Was in hog heaven when it broke and dad bought a new 640 JD 3 wheeler. I resurected an AC pto rake several years ago for old times sake. It did the same thing as dads old rake. I now use a New Holland 3 wheeler.

Posted By: Dwayne TX
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 11:48pm

They're both A/C rakes and both tongue pull, best I could find for the PTO rake is a 'standard' model. Trying to figure out which one would be the best to drop $$ into to use on heavy grass like the sudan and lighter like the bermuda.

The 77 has a wood block to tension the chain - is that original?

Posted By: im4racin
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 10:42am

I have both a standard and 2 77g. one old and new chain 77g. the later chain used a different shaft and brg arraignment...much better!

both work great but not on rough land. I have blown the casting apart on the early 77g twice. the 2nd time it required replacement parts so I bought all I could find. keep the slip joint in the drive shaft well lubed and smooth. rust will bind under load and push the drive shaft out of casting when it hits a bump and bottoms out the basket.