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What model fender is this? XT new to me

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    Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 5:53pm

Here is a 69 XT I bought today, seems to be very sound mechaniclly. I couldn't get it to pop out of any gear, 4793 on a working tach. Absolutely no noticable wear on the foot pedals. It was about 30 degrees out last night and after using the glow plugs for 45 seconds it turned over fast and started after about 6 revs with very little smoke. Front tires are "Maypops", 34" rears are good but mismatched, no fluid in tires so rims look very good. Not a single weld or break anywhere on loader, 6' bucket, the steering and front end are very tight. It needs some miner parts, handles, top link, seat, console door and placard, hyd hoses and a few leaks fixed. Might need a clutch in a couple years. Brakes are wet and need inner seal replaced. The paint on the loader is poor but the tractor itself is not that bad. Sheet metal is fair but the fenders are not like any 190 fenders I've seen. Can someone tell me if they for sure belong on a 190 or are they off a D21, 210, 220. They are taller, no stiffeners, no grab hole, the driver fender has a notch that is bolted to battery cover and they are rounded over the top of tire.

Thanks for any info.
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I dont know about the fenders but i like your tractor .Was this at a auction?.
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No I bought it from an Individual.
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Leon they are off of a 6080 or they might be off of a 7000 series open station. But the pto sticker on there tells me its off of the 6060/6080.

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IG, you know I thought about you as soon as I saw the fenders were wrong, you don't have a set just sitting around for sale do ya. Ones that came off a 200 would work, I'm kickin myself now.
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I know what you mean Leon. No I dont but I will keep my eyes open.

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What is the lever there in the last picture, going down to near the rear of the floor.  Our 190xt Series III doesn't have it???
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PTO for 190's and 200's  that have the single speed 540, not the hyd 2 speed pto
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Orange Blood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 7:26pm
Originally posted by Leon B MO Leon B MO wrote:

PTO for 190's and 200's  that have the single speed 540, not the hyd 2 speed pto

OK makes sense.  Both ours and my late grandpas had hydraulic PTOs

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Looks like IG hit it on the head. I looked at some 6080's on Tractor House and they have the curved radius above the tire, the left fender on the 6080 appears to have the same support brace that I have and it looks like there is no grab hole on the 6080, Sooooooooooo, looks like I might have a set of 6080 fenders for sale or trade for a pair of 190, 200 fenders.

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Originally posted by Leon B MO Leon B MO wrote:

PTO for 190's and 200's  that have the single speed 540, not the hyd 2 speed pto
I believe only the early 190s Ser. 1-2 had them. Ive got a ser. 1,2,3 and 200. Only my ser 1+2 have those levers the 3 and 200 are on the column. All are single speed PTO. I could be wrong though.
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Leon, I have a pair of 190 fenders that I would sell, let me know if you are interested
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I've also got a set of fenders here off of a 69, were only on the tractor 4 years of its life.  PM me if interested.
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Our new 1974 200 had the two speed pto leaver on the console.  We later bought a 1975 200, used, to have in our collection.  It has the single speed pto leaver on the left floor like the above picture.  In 1967 the 190 changed from a very short knob on the floor to the tall leaver to engage the pto.
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Thanks for the offers, I will be in touch. By the way I'm not in a big hurry for them. I've got a WD to put back together first. I'm not gonna paint the XT, it's gonna be a workhorse........well maybe someday........... well I might try to fix it up over the next couple years.............OK next winter! My lovely wife doesn't even know I got it yet, Shhhh.
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Originally posted by Leon B MO Leon B MO wrote:

My lovely wife doesn't even know I got it yet, Shhhh.
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Well Leon, if you need a place to stay, Colorado is lovely any time of year my friend.  We Allis Addicts need to take care of each other.!!  :-)
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the pto lever is just a mechanical engaged gear, have to stop and shift into gear. The ones on the side of console have a hydraulic clutch pack to be able to engage anytime. I dont think dual speed pto's are all hyd clutches. two completely different options. 
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To me the fenders are reminiscent of Ford flat tops from mid seventies thru nineties.

Maybe they are an aftermarket repop in that style meant to fit anything?

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