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    Posted: 24 Nov 2018 at 3:31pm
Looking for some help with parts I am having trouble locating.  I need a gasket between trans and hand clutch housing and the vertical steering shaft bearing/race for a tricycle front. I have Hyatt bearing numbers but didn't have any luck that route.

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Agco dealer should have them. I've gotten that gasket from my local dealer a couple of times. The bearing and race I've not bought but would think they would have too.
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I tried an Agco here in Illinois and never got a call back. Do you have a Phone #? i dont mind ordering out of state.

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Central Iowa Farm Store, Marshalltown Ia. 641-753-3996. Talk to Reed or Matt in parts. These guys both have WDs and know what you are talking about.
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Coultrain63,
Nice to see someone with fresh PO#1 on tractor parts! Welcome to the forum.
I have the vertical shaft bearing part numbers somewhere in my WD45 thread. These are not the original barrel type. But I think they should work OK. I bought them from KAMAN.
Sounds like you have a local source mentioned above. We need some pictures of the rest of your project.

Your paint looks awesome! Love final paint!
By the way are you replacing the bearings and races on each side of the worm gear? 

Regards,
 Chris
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I think theses may be the bearings I used. Not sure I have so many pictures of bearings? Top seal doesnt look right? Looks too small?



Another supplier would be Sandy Lake if you run out of leads.
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 Chris
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

Coultrain63,
Nice to see someone with fresh PO#1 on tractor parts! Welcome to the forum.
I have the vertical shaft bearing part numbers somewhere in my WD45 thread. These are not the original barrel type. But I think they should work OK. I bought them from KAMAN.
Sounds like you have a local source mentioned above. We need some pictures of the rest of your project.

Your paint looks awesome! Love final paint!
By the way are you replacing the bearings and races on each side of the worm gear? 

Regards,
 Chris

I will put up some more pics. I guess I can only do one at a time?
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Here is the gasket I need. Sorry about the rotation-haven't figured that out yet.
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Great shop and the WD is coming right along! Thanks for posting these. You should be able to post more than one one picture at a time too, so not sure why you cant?
Sandy Lake and or other AC parts folks on here should be able to provide that gasket. BTW I am going to need one sometime soon also. I am going to try to get mine split in the next few weeks.
What are you using for primer and paint? It looks good!
Regards,
 Chris
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

Great shop and the WD is coming right along! Thanks for posting these. You should be able to post more than one one picture at a time too, so not sure why you cant?
Sandy Lake and or other AC parts folks on here should be able to provide that gasket. BTW I am going to need one sometime soon also. I am going to try to get mine split in the next few weeks.
What are you using for primer and paint? It looks good!
Regards,
 Chris

Using AG SPECIALTIES paints.
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

Coultrain63,
Nice to see someone with fresh PO#1 on tractor parts! Welcome to the forum.
I have the vertical shaft bearing part numbers somewhere in my WD45 thread. These are not the original barrel type. But I think they should work OK. I bought them from KAMAN.
Sounds like you have a local source mentioned above. We need some pictures of the rest of your project.

Your paint looks awesome! Love final paint!
By the way are you replacing the bearings and races on each side of the worm gear? 

Regards,
 Chris

Worm gear bearings are OK.
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Thanks for the tips guys, I will make some calls tomorrow.
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that gasket doesn't look that complex.  get a sheet of gasket material and ballpeen out your own gasket.
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Best I can find on DJs tractor parts is a hand clutch shaft seal, but don't see a gasket.

Don't forget there's two cork gaskets that go in the spindle as well I think. I saw sugarmaker repair his the other day and was looking at buying some for my own tractor.

Also that WD looks pretty fantastic; great job so far!
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I thought about making a gasket but if the thickness isn't right i'm afraid the lash on the bearings wont be right.

Not sure what you mean by corks on the spindle.

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These are the two cork gaskets related to the pedestal from what I can tell:

Maybe these are part of the steering assembly and not the pedestal itself though... I haven't torn into mind yet as I am trying to figure out what parts I need. Here's sugarmaker's relevant post from his "WD45 next? YES!" thread.

Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

Ok It was a slow day.
Heres a shot of the old WD that I put in storage, guess I needed a picture of a complete tractor!:):

Worked on the WD45 front pedestal assembly:
Installed the front expansion plug. SM says apply some sealer, I used gray silicone.
It doesnt say that you need to put it in with the concave side towards the front and then gently flatten it out  from the back to seal against the sides:


Next was the new bearing race in the bearing cage:

Then the race in the front of the perdestal:

Then the new cork seals and retainer:


Dont forget the spacer that goes between the worm and the back bearing.

Bearing installed on the front of the worm. Grease to be applied.

Now to install the spacer and back bearing, on the steering shaft, and begin assembly. Also a shim/s in there too! (page 57 in your manual)
Feels good to be assembling finally!
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Folks,
Make sure were are talking about the same parts. I am sure not a expert here. 
On the large vertical spindle in a narrow front there are two seals. I used lip seals for these.
 The two small 7/8 I.D. cork seals in my pictures are the ones at the back of the pedestal on the horizontal shaft turning the worm gear.
Regards,
 Chris 
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

Folks,
Make sure were are talking about the same parts. I am sure not a expert here. 
On the large vertical spindle in a narrow front there are two seals. I used lip seals for these.
 The two small 7/8 I.D. cork seals in my pictures are the ones at the back of the pedestal on the horizontal shaft turning the worm gear.
Regards,
 Chris 

Yes thanks just to clarify I am talking about bearings for the lower vertical shaft. and a gasket where its split at the trans. 
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Here is an update fro you guys! working on the sheet metal now. 
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Anyone know where I can find a few of these?
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...or get a chunk of angle iron from the welding shop and cut some out.
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mcmaster carr has them

use "leveling washers for I-beams" in the search
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Looks like it will be really nice when done.
What the funny looking thing of front of the crank pulley?
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Coultrain,
Looks great! More pictures! Please.
I was wondering the same thing on that pulley? Haven't seen that version? What does the shaft look like?
Just noticed the different fan too.
Also what did you find for vertical spindle bearing?
Wish mine was that far along! its a lot of moves to get them old WD's to look that good!
Regards,
Chris


Edited by Sugarmaker - 18 Jan 2019 at 10:45am
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

Coultrain,
Looks great! More pictures! Please.
I was wondering the same thing on that pulley? Haven't seen that version? What does the shaft look like?
Just noticed the different fan too.
Also what did you find for vertical spindle bearing?
Wish mine was that far along! its a lot of moves to get them old WD's to look that good!
Regards,
Chris

The pulley was repaired at some point. looks like it may have been being used for something-not sure what. I got the spindle bearings from the central Iowa farm store. Great guys there.  Ill try and post more pics later.  
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Coultrain,
 Did you replace the 3 seals in the torque tube? I plan to put in new ones at some point.
Regards,
 Chris
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

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 Did you replace the 3 seals in the torque tube? I plan to put in new ones at some point.
Regards,
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I did not tear it down that far. 
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