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Topic: WD Patrs

Posted By: Coultrain63
Subject: WD Patrs
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2018 at 3:31pm

Looking for some help with parts I am having trouble locating. I need a gasket between trans and hand clutch housing and the vertical steering shaft bearing/race for a tricycle front. I have Hyatt bearing numbers but didn't have any luck that route.

Thanks.

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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2018 at 7:50pm

Agco dealer should have them. I've gotten that gasket from my local dealer a couple of times. The bearing and race I've not bought but would think they would have too.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2018 at 8:54pm

I tried an Agco here in Illinois and never got a call back. Do you have a Phone #? i dont mind ordering out of state.

Thanks

Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 7:23am

Central Iowa Farm Store, Marshalltown Ia. 641-753-3996. Talk to Reed or Matt in parts. These guys both have WDs and know what you are talking about.

Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 9:46am

Coultrain63,

Nice to see someone with fresh PO#1 on tractor parts! Welcome to the forum.

I have the vertical shaft bearing part numbers somewhere in my WD45 thread. These are not the original barrel type. But I think they should work OK. I bought them from KAMAN.

Sounds like you have a local source mentioned above. We need some pictures of the rest of your project.

Your paint looks awesome! Love final paint!

By the way are you replacing the bearings and races on each side of the worm gear?

Regards,

Chris

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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 10:17am

I think theses may be the bearings I used. Not sure I have so many pictures of bearings? Top seal doesnt look right? Looks too small?

Another supplier would be Sandy Lake if you run out of leads.

Regards,

Chris

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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 10:34am

Sugarmaker wrote:

Coultrain63,

Nice to see someone with fresh PO#1 on tractor parts! Welcome to the forum.

I have the vertical shaft bearing part numbers somewhere in my WD45 thread. These are not the original barrel type. But I think they should work OK. I bought them from KAMAN.

Sounds like you have a local source mentioned above. We need some pictures of the rest of your project.

Your paint looks awesome! Love final paint!

By the way are you replacing the bearings and races on each side of the worm gear?

Regards,

Chris

I will put up some more pics. I guess I can only do one at a time?

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 10:37am

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 10:45am

Here is the gasket I need. Sorry about the rotation-haven't figured that out yet.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 10:56am

Current status

Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 11:32am

Great shop and the WD is coming right along! Thanks for posting these. You should be able to post more than one one picture at a time too, so not sure why you cant?

Sandy Lake and or other AC parts folks on here should be able to provide that gasket. BTW I am going to need one sometime soon also. I am going to try to get mine split in the next few weeks.

What are you using for primer and paint? It looks good!

Regards,

Chris

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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 2:13pm

Sugarmaker wrote:

Great shop and the WD is coming right along! Thanks for posting these. You should be able to post more than one one picture at a time too, so not sure why you cant?

Sandy Lake and or other AC parts folks on here should be able to provide that gasket. BTW I am going to need one sometime soon also. I am going to try to get mine split in the next few weeks.

What are you using for primer and paint? It looks good!

Regards,

Chris

Using AG SPECIALTIES paints.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 2:17pm

Sugarmaker wrote:

Coultrain63,

Nice to see someone with fresh PO#1 on tractor parts! Welcome to the forum.

I have the vertical shaft bearing part numbers somewhere in my WD45 thread. These are not the original barrel type. But I think they should work OK. I bought them from KAMAN.

Sounds like you have a local source mentioned above. We need some pictures of the rest of your project.

Your paint looks awesome! Love final paint!

By the way are you replacing the bearings and races on each side of the worm gear?

Regards,

Chris

Worm gear bearings are OK.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 2:21pm

Thanks for the tips guys, I will make some calls tomorrow.

Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 3:42pm

that gasket doesn't look that complex. get a sheet of gasket material and ballpeen out your own gasket.

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Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 5:16pm

Best I can find on DJs tractor parts is a hand clutch shaft seal, but don't see a gasket.

Don't forget there's two cork gaskets that go in the spindle as well I think. I saw sugarmaker repair his the other day and was looking at buying some for my own tractor.

Also that WD looks pretty fantastic; great job so far!

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 5:33pm

I thought about making a gasket but if the thickness isn't right i'm afraid the lash on the bearings wont be right.

Not sure what you mean by corks on the spindle.

Thanks

Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 6:44pm

These are the two cork gaskets related to the pedestal from what I can tell:

https://stores.djstractorparts.com/allis-chalmers-front-tricycle-upper-spindle-shaft-seal-wd-wd45-wd45d-70202102/" rel="nofollow - https://stores.djstractorparts.com/allis-chalmers-front-tricycle-upper-spindle-shaft-seal-wd-wd45-wd45d-70202102/

https://stores.djstractorparts.com/allis-chalmers-wc-wd-wd45-front-pedestal-lower-spindle-shaft-seal-70202101/" rel="nofollow - https://stores.djstractorparts.com/allis-chalmers-wc-wd-wd45-front-pedestal-lower-spindle-shaft-seal-70202101/

Maybe these are part of the steering assembly and not the pedestal itself though... I haven't torn into mind yet as I am trying to figure out what parts I need. Here's sugarmaker's relevant post from his "WD45 next? YES!" thread.

Sugarmaker wrote:

Ok It was a slow day.

Heres a shot of the old WD that I put in storage, guess I needed a picture of a complete tractor!:):

Worked on the WD45 front pedestal assembly:

Installed the front expansion plug. SM says apply some sealer, I used gray silicone.

It doesnt say that you need to put it in with the concave side towards the front and then gently flatten it out from the back to seal against the sides:

Next was the new bearing race in the bearing cage:

Then the race in the front of the perdestal:

Then the new cork seals and retainer:

Dont forget the spacer that goes between the worm and the back bearing.

Bearing installed on the front of the worm. Grease to be applied.

Now to install the spacer and back bearing, on the steering shaft, and begin assembly. Also a shim/s in there too! (page 57 in your manual)

Feels good to be assembling finally!

Regards,

Chris

Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 7:27pm

Folks,

Make sure were are talking about the same parts. I am sure not a expert here.

On the large vertical spindle in a narrow front there are two seals. I used lip seals for these.

The two small 7/8 I.D. cork seals in my pictures are the ones at the back of the pedestal on the horizontal shaft turning the worm gear.

Regards,

Chris

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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 7:54pm

Sugarmaker wrote:

Folks,

Make sure were are talking about the same parts. I am sure not a expert here.

On the large vertical spindle in a narrow front there are two seals. I used lip seals for these.

The two small 7/8 I.D. cork seals in my pictures are the ones at the back of the pedestal on the horizontal shaft turning the worm gear.

Regards,

Chris

Yes thanks just to clarify I am talking about bearings for the lower vertical shaft. and a gasket where its split at the trans.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 5:44pm

Here is an update fro you guys! working on the sheet metal now.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 5:56pm

Anyone know where I can find a few of these?

Posted By: albrown915
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 7:07pm

Fastenal

Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 8:54pm

...or get a chunk of angle iron from the welding shop and cut some out.

Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 10:03pm

mcmaster carr has them

use "leveling washers for I-beams" in the search

http://www.mcmaster.com" rel="nofollow - www.mcmaster.com

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41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's,
Ford 345C TLB

Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2019 at 6:30am

Looks like it will be really nice when done.

What the funny looking thing of front of the crank pulley?

Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2019 at 10:44am

Coultrain,

Looks great! More pictures! Please.

I was wondering the same thing on that pulley? Haven't seen that version? What does the shaft look like?

Just noticed the different fan too.

Also what did you find for vertical spindle bearing?

Wish mine was that far along! its a lot of moves to get them old WD's to look that good!

Regards,

Chris

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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 12:49pm

Sugarmaker wrote:

Coultrain,

Looks great! More pictures! Please.

I was wondering the same thing on that pulley? Haven't seen that version? What does the shaft look like?

Just noticed the different fan too.

Also what did you find for vertical spindle bearing?

Wish mine was that far along! its a lot of moves to get them old WD's to look that good!

Regards,

Chris

The pulley was repaired at some point. looks like it may have been being used for something-not sure what. I got the spindle bearings from the central Iowa farm store. Great guys there. Ill try and post more pics later.

Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 12:57pm

Coultrain,

Did you replace the 3 seals in the torque tube? I plan to put in new ones at some point.

Regards,

Chris

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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 5:49pm

Sugarmaker wrote:

Coultrain,

Did you replace the 3 seals in the torque tube? I plan to put in new ones at some point.

Regards,

Chris

I did not tear it down that far.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 6:07pm

more pics.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 6:10pm

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 6:11pm

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 6:29pm

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 6:31pm

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 6:34pm

Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 7:14pm

Coultrain,

Man that fresh paint looks great! I love that part of the build! Reminds me of a kid putting model cars together! Your tank looks awesome!

Thanks for the pictures!

Not sure if that pulley will work to hand crank it. My guess is you dont plan to hand crank it much?:)

Regards,

Chris

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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 6:53pm

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 6:59pm

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 7:01pm

Some updates for you fellas.Sorry still cant get the pics right but its coming along!

Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 7:31pm

Coultrain63,

That fresh PO paint looks Awesome! Thanks for the update on your tractor!

Regards,

Chris!

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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

Posted By: Jim Hancock
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 9:18pm

Curiosity question, Coultrain63...

What is the cooling fan off of or from?

No doubt about it, that'll sure move some air!

Good looking job to date, too!

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How blessed we are by HIS GRACE!

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 7:47pm

Jim Hancock wrote:

Curiosity question, Coultrain63...

What is the cooling fan off of or from?

No doubt about it, that'll sure move some air!

Good looking job to date, too!

The fan was on it when I got it. Interesting. I really never thought about it I just painted it. Thanks!

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 23 May 2021 at 5:27pm

Latest progress...

Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 23 May 2021 at 6:00pm

WOW... thats one sharp looking tractor !

I had to go back and look at all the PURDY pictures from 2 years ago ! Thanks for the update.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 23 May 2021 at 6:08pm

Im looking for help with all the little sticker locations if anyone has any info.

Thanks!

Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 23 May 2021 at 8:12pm

This is from a response I gave about a WD45 decal question back in 2010. My tractor is a WD and these pics are from my WD.

The fill battery decal goes on the outside of the left side of battery box. About 1 inch or so from the top and centered front to back. The electrical diagram decal goes on the inside of the top battery box cover. Keep lever down goes on the little flat area on the quadrants left side by the hydraulic lever. Power Crater goes on the left side, lower rear of the engine block (going from memory on the power crater as my WD doesn't have that one). The Snap Coupler goes on the left side of the Snap Coupler bell under the tractor situated on the top half and somewhat centered. The tire one (there should be 2) go on each left wheel anywhere on the smooth face of the rim and somewhat centered. The grease joint goes on the steering shaft itself with the decal starting about even with the top of side frame and going up from there running lengthways on the shaft. And the shutters one goes about 1 inch below the hole for the shutter control handle on the front right side of the grill shell and centered with the hole. If your 45 didn't come with a distillate engine then you won't have this hole I believe. Hope I made sense. Here are pictures

This is the battery fill

This shows the inside of the battery lid w/ electrical diagram

This is where I believe the power crater goes

I forgot to get a picture of the snap couple but I think my description show work

Front left wheel

I couldn't get a good shot of the rear left but this is where it goes if this were the left wheel

Here are some others

This is supposed to be centered on the box but in an original film I spotted one that was off center so I put it off center to copy the one on the film

this is the patent numbers on the right hand side under fuel tank

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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 23 May 2021 at 8:16pm

Not sure that the Be Careful decals were part of the original WD decals but it's what Wacker Decals gave me several years ago. Sorry about the dumb photobucket watermarks as photobucket claims my photos belong to them. Angry

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Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 23 May 2021 at 11:24pm

nice looking tractor

Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 24 May 2021 at 6:06am

Sure is looking awesome! Thanks for the update!

Regards,

Chris

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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 24 May 2021 at 7:13am

That Tractor needs a nice new B&B wiring system on it! LOL! Great lookin' Tractor! Nice job!

Steve@B&B

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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife

Posted By: Coultrain63
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 5:17pm

Thanks for the help guys! Its been a really fun project.