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jboettcher 
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 10:16am |
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I am looking to find someone that is in Wisc that would be interested in a side job installing a clutch assembly in my WD when I remove the motor.
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Stan IL&TN
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 10:26am |
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Removing the engine is way more work than the installation of the clutch. After the engine is out it's a piece of cake. Remove the old clutch and take it to a clutch rebuilder in your area or have one of the fine folks that support this site do it.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 10:33am |
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WHere would I find who in wisconsin does the clutch work
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Stan IL&TN
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 10:38am |
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Yellow pages or Google or check with the vendors on this site.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 10:46am |
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Talk to Rick! He's on here most days I think.
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jboettcher
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 10:51am |
OK! Call slap me silly and call me Shirley! I don't see anything calling out vendors? Any assistance would be great.
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Stan IL&TN
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 11:22am |
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Go to top of this page and select/click on the AC emblem. It should take you to another page that has "parts and Services" listed on one of the tabs. Select it and you will see the vendors. I don't think Rick is listed there but he is the resident clutch expert and should be along shortly.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 11:32am |
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I just bought a clutch disk of off eBay (search for price + shipping lowest) and you can also get an aliment tool there too. There are only a couple of bolts that hold the pressure plate on.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 12:38pm |
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Get with Rick Corder. He's in Missouri but he will ship just about anywhere. I'd have him send you a cover and disc. I'm sure he'd want your old ones to rebuild for the next guy.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 12:57pm |
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OK Rick. He and I have been talking on FB Messager
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 1:39pm |
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Would suggest buying a service manual also-this is in addition to and not to be confused with an operators manual (which you should also have). Easy to follow instructions there.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 2:41pm |
 jboettcher wrote:
I am looking to find someone that is in Wisc that would be interested in a side job installing a clutch assembly in my WD when I remove the motor. |
Easy peasy. I helped do it when I was a whippersnapper. Once the engine is out you essentially unbolt the pressure plate and remove the clutch disk. Replace the clutch disk and maybe the pressure plate. I suggest that you replace the throw-out bearing, but that's no big deal either. Use a centering tool to center the disk. It's a little bit of a bugger aligning the splines when you reinstall the engine, but a little patience does the trick.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 3:19pm |
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Don`t forget to check the step in flywheel... Tony
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 3:26pm |
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Jamie...Tony brings up a very good point! ALWAYS resurface the flywheel or you might as well just keep the old clutch in there! The step is 1.188 in the book...close enough at 1.187 or 1 3/16". Rick
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 4:19pm |
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And don't force the engine back in using bolts. It should slide together with some maneuvering. Make some lineup dowels but cutting off the heads of a couple longer bolts to assist.
Edited by Lonn - 25 Sep 2017 at 4:21pm
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 5:03pm |
I may be confusing myself. Is the engine clutch basically 3 pieces? and bolts onto the flywheel like a car? I think I have been looking at the transmission clutch and confusing that with the encine clutch. I never had a slip issue with the PTO, we only pull plows and planters. which clutch system drives the rear wheels? Engine clutch or transmission clutch? Also, we typically (only) use the hand clutch.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 5:24pm |
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The engine clutch drives everything. The transmission clutch, under the battery box, disengages the transmission so the wheels can stop, but lets the PTO and hydraulic pump keep working.
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Posted: 26 Sep 2017 at 7:53am |
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If you mean the hand clutch, there's an excellent YouTube video that someone here posted a couple of months ago. I'm old and getting the heimers, so I don't remember who posted it. Verniers and calipers and such can usually be rented.
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Posted: 26 Sep 2017 at 9:00am |
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You should really only use the foot clutch. The hand clutch is only to stop forward motion while allowing the PTO or hydraulics to continue running.
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Posted: 27 Sep 2017 at 6:38am |
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I’m just tossing this out there
I possibly found an engine in KY, I’m just curious if anyone has a WD or WD45 engine closer to Wisc .
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Posted: 27 Sep 2017 at 3:35pm |
Allis dave wrote:
You should really only use the foot clutch. The hand clutch is only to stop forward motion while allowing the PTO or hydraulics to continue running. |
I will never understand that line of thinking.
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Posted: 28 Sep 2017 at 9:04pm |
DougS wrote:
If you mean the hand clutch, there's an excellent YouTube video that someone here posted a couple of months ago. I'm old and getting the heimers, so I don't remember who posted it. Verniers and calipers and such can usually be rented. |
Here is the link: https://youtu.be/1ebh4pRvTiI
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Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 6:11pm |
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This is getting rediculous. Does nobody know how to replace/install/set up an engine clutch on a WD?
I’ve got lots of messages saying it’s so easy, but no instructions.
What is the height, how many shims, how far can flywheel be machined?
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Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 10:13pm |
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now i am getting confused, engine clutch just bolts to the flywheel with a piolet to center the disc springs facing out tighten all the bolts down even , somone on here probley that torque spec in the new piolet bearing installed in the center of the flywheel only dimension to worry about is the step in the flywheel when it is re serfaced ,that was posted earlyer. thats about all there is to it. keep the greasey finger prints of the mating surfaces. the hand clutch is the one that has the shim packs
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Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 10:53pm |
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HudCo thanks
I’m feeling a bit more informed. BUT!!!!!
HudCo’s response spurred a question. Does the engine clutch ever disengage? What engages and disengages the engine clutch?some people have said the hand clutch runs the engine clutch. The repair procedure even talks about the hand clutch free play when replacing the engine clutch
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Posted: 30 Sep 2017 at 8:04am |
WC7610 wrote:
Would suggest buying a service manual also-this is in addition to and not to be confused with an operators manual (which you should also have). Easy to follow instructions there. |
Please read this quote above and buy SERVICE & OPERATORS MANIALS it will be a big help with all the questions you have today and on down the road.  But for today's help you can send me a PM and I will send you my phone # to help you out.  Don
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Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 11:52am |
jboettcher wrote:
HudCo thanks
I’m feeling a bit more informed. BUT!!!!!
HudCo’s response spurred a question. Does the engine clutch ever disengage? What engages and disengages the engine clutch?some people have said the hand clutch runs the engine clutch. The repair procedure even talks about the hand clutch free play when replacing the engine clutch |
Why would you have an engine clutch if it never disengaged? When you push the foot pedal on the left side forward, the engine clutch disengages and stops ALL power to EVERYTHING behind the engine. The had clutch is a transmission clutch which only stops power to the tranny and leaves the PTO and hydraulic pump running.
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Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 4:08pm |
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CTucker-
Ok, so if I’m pulling, and I feel “something like a clutch” slip, without the use of a pro. What is slipping? The transmission or engine clutch. I completely accept that I may be asking the question wrong.
Very randomly, when we are working the tractor like a team of rented mules, we will feel something slip and our forward progress slows.
Can you help me with this?
Thank you in advance
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Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 4:13pm |
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CTucker-
Ok, so if I’m pulling, and I feel “something like a clutch” slip, without the use of a pro. What is slipping? The transmission or engine clutch. I completely accept that I may be asking the question wrong.
Very randomly, when we are working the tractor like a team of rented mules, we will feel something slip and our forward progress slows.
Can you help me with this?
Thank you in advance
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Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 4:25pm |
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if your hand clutch pulls in hard and snaps out with a bang it is probably tight enough to not slip IF the discs are not worn out.When friction surface is shot,they can be tight and still slip.
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