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    Posted: 30 May 2012 at 7:07am
How many wc maintainers did allis make? Are they common? What are they worth? I think these things are so cool. Like to get one someday to restore.
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the single front wheel? Im thinking there were only like 100 or 200 built. 
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There were 411 of the AC Maintainers made. I have a 1938 unstyled one. I do not think there are very many of them accounted for. 
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So these would be classified as semi rare.
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Originally posted by AJ AJ wrote:

So these would be classified as semi rare.
Calvin S.  can put some light on this one .He tells me that with mine and Dale's he only know's of less then 10 he has on record. Start SAVING !!!!!!!!!!!
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Let's see pictures of the one's we know of .Dale if you e-mail me a picture I will post your's . Here is My 1939.
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It's a shame there aren't more of these left. These things are some unique.
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Did they make any other models of the maintainers besides the WC?
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By the wag Fred, your maintainer looks awesome.
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As was stated there were 411 Speed Maintainers built in 1938-1940. There was the early version like mine, a few with the square grader frame on the styled tractor, and the final version like Fred has. I know of fewer than 10 of all versions. This is my 1938 at the GOTO in Union Grove in 05

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Anybody have a picture of the square frame on the styled tractor?
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Jack Gustafson had one on a newer WC but the only real evidence that I have is a magazine ad from 1939.
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think you could post that advertisement for me to save? I have a collection of advertisements and brochures on my computer I've saved over the years. If I ever do anything with it I will be sure to give you credit. Handshake
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What is the diference between maintainer and speed patrol? thanks
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speed patrol had the elongated wide front end. and came after the maintainer
 


Edited by acwdwcman - 02 Jun 2012 at 7:20am
wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow
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Originally posted by D-allis Iowa D-allis Iowa wrote:

What is the diference between maintainer and speed patrol? thanks
Maintainer has pressed steel rear rims'.W-Patrol Has the heavey cast center with clamp on rims .
Rear gear's are slower in the W-Patrol
And as already said ,front end's .
The Maintainer also dose not have 2 clutch pedals ,Maintainer's only have 1 pedal as a regular WC ,no clutch pedal under axle houing out to rear plat fourm .Patrol has back clutch pedal ,
that could be used for standing up while Gradeing .
There are a few difference's
Maintainer dose not have a wide plat forum to stand on .
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Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:

Originally posted by D-allis Iowa D-allis Iowa wrote:

What is the diference between maintainer and speed patrol? thanks
Maintainer has pressed steel rear rims'.W-Patrol Has the heavey cast center with clamp on rims .
Rear gear's are slower in the W-Patrol
And as already said ,front end's .
The Maintainer also dose not have 2 clutch pedals ,Maintainer's only have 1 pedal as a regular WC ,no clutch pedal under axle houing out to rear plat fourm .Patrol has back clutch pedal ,
that could be used for standing up while Gradeing .
There are a few difference's
Maintainer dose not have a wide plat forum to stand on while operating ,and to also beable to use rear cluct pedal..
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Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:

Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:

Originally posted by D-allis Iowa D-allis Iowa wrote:

What is the diference between maintainer and speed patrol? thanks
Maintainer has pressed steel rear rims'.W-Patrol Has the heavey cast center with clamp on rims .
Rear gear's are slower in the W-Patrol
And as already said ,front end's .
The Maintainer also dose not have 2 clutch pedals ,Maintainer's only have 1 pedal as a regular WC ,no clutch pedal under axle houing out to rear plat fourm .Patrol has back clutch pedal ,
that could be used for standing up while Gradeing .
There are a few difference's
Maintainer dose not have a wide plat forum to stand on while operating ,and to also beable to use rear clucth pedal..
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The operators manual that I have calls it a "Speed Maintainer attachment for WC tractor'
Likely most left the factory as a unit, but it would appear that the attachment could have been ordered for an existing tractor. Speed Maintainers have a grader and a tractor serial number. Speed Patrols do not have a serial number on the tractor pumpkin. My Maintainer was cobbled onto a Farmall H when I found it so I traded a WF for this WC with a serial number in the correct range. Other than the single front wheel the tractor is a standard WC. Unstyled versions did not have fenders because the fenders interfered with the blade lift.
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Nice Calvin! I like the looks of that unstyled!
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Was there such a thing made like this in a C version? Or after market accessory?
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Drott made a grader attatchment. I've seen them on a WD and I think a B if I remember right.
I think it was Drott.

Edited by MNLonnie - 03 Jun 2012 at 12:13am
Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker
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I have seen a couple of them on a B. There was one on a B at George Suttons auction at Litchfield, Il. a few years ago, do not remember what it brought.
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Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker
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I believe that is a Drott grader attatchment??
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Drott made a lot of industrial equipment for AC and other tractor companies, I have an IB with a Drott sickle bar mower on it. It has 2-2 way hyd. cylinders and is ran by hyd. with a front mount hyd. pump. 
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I would like to find one of those attachments.
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Speaking of Drott I find it interesting that years ago Ed Drott who started Drott Caterpiller Co was a hobo who was pennyless along with my Grandfather. They had nothing and rode the trains looking for work any kind digging ditches, splitting firewood for a meal ect. They even threw a rock through a sheriff office window in Montana so they would get arrested and get something to eat. They went in a field and ate frozen turnips for Christmas dinner once. Good people but hard times. My Grandfather died owning a very nice farm which is still in the family and Ed died with a owning a huge company. He died speaking at a board of directors meeting. They kept in touch with each other many years .
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