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Codger 
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 Posted: 15 Jan 2022 at 5:31pm |
Really don't know anything about it. I just drive the truck for them on call. Pick up and delivery as a sideline thing to do in retirement.
I like to talk to the guys in the shop and find much of this interesting; as always willing to learn something.
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Branger
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Posted: 15 Jan 2022 at 5:41pm |
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Well, this brings back a 10 year old memory. As Dr. Allis mentioned, I had our housing sleeved and bored without issues, and I actually tack welded the nut in place. My original message noted $3,500 in parts for this whole power shift rebuild. I’d be scared to know that cost today. It sounds like parts availability is becoming scare. I loved the 8070, but I’m glad it’s gone now due to this parts availability issue I hear about with transmission, FWA, and other various parts.
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bigal121892
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Posted: 15 Jan 2022 at 6:01pm |
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Since you brought it up :), In 1993 We had to go through our 8070, new clutches, updates, etc., and it was $6,600.00.
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Posted: 15 Jan 2022 at 6:15pm |
I know what you mean. The mechanic told me on Friday the owner has authorized $20K in repairs as he really likes the tractor and doesn't want to look back. Friction and steel discs are still available but there is no "kit" available. The input shaft is NLA, but gaskets and seals are. An NOS drum was located at another dealer and was transferred in. The owner outright rejected a salvage unit from a yard in Kansas as didn't want to "inherit" problems. The 3500 engine in this tractor has been rebuilt and runs very well is probably a large draw also. They also have several 70XX series tractors.
Everything is maintained quite well in the grand scheme.
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tthams
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Posted: 16 Jan 2022 at 6:36pm |
I know I am jumping in a little late on this post, and I don't know if this information helps at all when going back and discussing the cost with your shop, but I had a 7060 power shift rebuilt on a 7060 (at least still trying to). Here is the cost breakdown from July for what I was charged:
Labor: $3,339 at $65/hour
Freight: $70.60
Parts $6,686.61
Gas, Oil, Grease $342
Tax: $259.67
Total: $10,695.88
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Codger
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Posted: 16 Jan 2022 at 7:02pm |
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Current shop rate is $99.00 an hour. That is $26.00 an hour less than the Deere dealer 8 miles distant.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 16 Jan 2022 at 7:12pm |
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I'd probably bid the job at 40 to 50 hrs max, so 5K in todays labor.
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Codger
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Posted: 16 Jan 2022 at 8:56pm |
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Once this thing concludes I don't mind posting the itemized list and totals, but I will blank out any identifying features of the invoice. I don't think anybody would have a problem with that at all.
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Codger
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Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 7:13am |
An NOS transmission case has been acquired, as has the input shaft which was the last in inventory anyplace for this transmission. All new clutches, and seals/gaskets are there. I think they are to begin reassembly next week. The cab and sheet metal was taken to an auto body shop, blasted clean and repainted with all new decals I'm told. Also a "cab insulation kit" is being installed this week. There is a new wiring harness for the cab at the dealership yet to be picked up. Basically with the rebuilt engine, rebuilt transmission, sound differentials, and fairly new tires which are installed, it will be a very close to new 8070.
He will have close to $30K in the tractor rebuild but it's his "favorite" tractor to use, and much less $$$ than an equal like replacement.
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DougG
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Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 7:11pm |
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You, ll have a new machine , kinda !
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Codger
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Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 7:50pm |
Brought in this one today for clean up and service:
Turns out he has Five 8070 MFWA tractors, and a few other, and newer Allis variants and some are shown here:
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EPALLIS
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Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 9:13pm |
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I had to have my D-17 recently split and I thought the bill was high as well. But guess what, these tractors are 50 years, I couldn't run it like it was any longer, the AGCO dealer was willing to work on and fix it and did a great job and now it runs like a top. Did I enjoy paying the bill, No. However, it means the world to me to have it repaired and running like a top. So, Life is good. Sometimes, it does cost some money to buy happiness and keep Allis-Chalmers in business. And If another A-C can live another day and be productive, so it doesn't end up on a scrap iron barge to China or being parted out, it's worth it.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 6:14am |
They still service many D17, D19, and 190 series tractors often in the shop. Most never complain about the pricing and many of the tractors were purchased there new. Not the same sets of hands working on them for sure, but the customer base is still very viable and reliable.
Around here there are a lot of D17 series running mowers, pumps, conveyors, and of course the "chore" tractor etc., but none are front line work tractors any longer. There were so many built, and several aftermarket suppliers that parts supplies haven't really been a problem; albeit expensive at times.
I just brought in a really nice Oliver 1700 with a Waukashaw gasoline engine day before yesterday for "refresh" too, so they don't just work on Allis. I use the term "refresh" as these tractors don't get "restored" as that means many different things to different owners.
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