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    Posted: 02 Sep 2024 at 9:03pm
Originally posted by dfwallis dfwallis wrote:

Just for info, CAs with engine prior to CE149840 came with magnetos, those from CE149840 and on came with distributors.  My 1952 CA13092 has a distributor.  I have no idea whether that's original or not.  Would be interesting to know where CE149840 broke in but didn't see that on the AGCO site.


Interesting!! Let me pull the serial number form our "farmed in" CA. Definitely it is a magneto and I will bet you are right..... Our farmed in CA is an earlier number than the number of my grandfathers CA.

As well, as I type, I do remember that our family CA does have a distributor. This would make sense.

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Just for info, CAs with engine prior to CE149840 came with magnetos, those from CE149840 and on came with distributors.  My 1952 CA13092 has a distributor.  I have no idea whether that's original or not.  Would be interesting to know where CE149840 broke in but didn't see that on the AGCO site.
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Thus, with new wires, plugs, rotor and cap, is this the magneto coil that is cutting out at high temp or the magneto condenser? Connections are tight. Maybe replace both??

Your right on track... Could be either, or both..


Just ordered both from DJ's..... I am hoping this resolves the issue. I think I will change one at a time to see which is the culprit offender!!


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Thus, with new wires, plugs, rotor and cap, is this the magneto coil that is cutting out at high temp or the magneto condenser? Connections are tight. Maybe replace both??

Your right on track... Could be either, or both..
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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A shout-out to my wife Kari who has been writing while I was busy with our family CA rebuild.

While I was "Tractoring," she wrote a book!!! Thus, here is my shout-out to her.

My better half, a "Tractor-Widow!"

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Overall moved another 5-7 ton of sand. Also hooked up the neighbors harrow and began to drag the beach. Stopped when it started missing again. Still was able to achieve quite a lot in a few hours. Will finish tomorrow AM.



Total time on our new little orange friend is 11 hours (8 hours spent on moving and grading the sand).



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Did head out with the CA and was able to spread out the rest of the sand. Our orange friend really works awesome. Was able to pull up sand from the lake without much effort. It actually worked better on wet sand with better traction vs. the dry and loose sand I have been moving around.

Tractor worked well for about 2 hours then started missing again. Thus, I let it cool for about an hour while I shoveled some sand at the edges by hand. After that I restarted and it ran smooth again. I was back to full water temp about 10 min later, however, after about another 40- 60 min of work, it started missing again.

The magneto was hot to the touch.

I have a hard time believe this is is due to the mechanical part of the magneto. Thus, with new wires, plugs, rotor and cap, is this the magneto coil that is cutting out at high temp or the magneto condenser? Connections are tight. Maybe replace both??

Thoughts?

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Too purdy to get dirty :)
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Put the new plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap and rotor. It started right up and ran smooth.



However, was just thinking about a prior thread and how they lost spark after warming up and running for a while. I did try again on Saturday evening when it had cooled down a bit, and still did not have spark. Should've tired tonight before changing everything!    

We will see what happens when we work it for a bit this weekend!!

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nice looking beach also... where is that ?
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

Dan,
 Very nice job on putting your new CA to work! The power adjusters are a project sometimes. At least on the WD series they can be rusted tight. But it is good to get them freed up to secure the wheels to the centers.
Sure looks good on the beach moving sand!
 Thanks for taking us along on your project!
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Thank you!

When we assembled them, I did tighten them and remember that the last one did not turn as much as the prior. Thus, as mentioned, it is not centered. I will loosen the ones that are more than the other and then see if I can get them all tight and at about the same rotation.

That should center them for the most part? Correct?
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Originally posted by 1955CA 1955CA wrote:

Aren't they a great tractor to drive. So much power for what they are. And nice and simple. I love the CA.


Yes. It is a great little tractor! Even in soft sand it has done well. Can easily pull a full blade with only a bit of slipping in the sand.
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Dan,
 Very nice job on putting your new CA to work! The power adjusters are a project sometimes. At least on the WD series they can be rusted tight. But it is good to get them freed up to secure the wheels to the centers.
Sure looks good on the beach moving sand!
 Thanks for taking us along on your project!
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Aren't they a great tractor to drive. So much power for what they are. And nice and simple. I love the CA.
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Originally posted by dfwallis dfwallis wrote:

Originally posted by CA13414 CA13414 wrote:

Originally posted by dfwallis dfwallis wrote:

Power Adjust wheels have cam locks (and if present additional motion stop locks)


I am not sure, but is this something that is on a CA

Thanks!


Power adjust wheels were standard on a CA (those sliding rails for adjusting the wheels in or out).  Yours appears to have them.




Now I get it. Totally agree!

If that is loose, that could be the reason and the wheel is jumping around and causing the noise.

Awesome! I will check and hope it is that simple!!

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Originally posted by dfwallis dfwallis wrote:

Originally posted by 1955CA 1955CA wrote:

Looking good! nice job you did. Nice to see another CA back to work.

I think I'm going to order one of those side steps now like you have. I have tractors parked so tight in my barn I can't climb on the rear like I normally do.


I'm thinking about do the same, but I'm thinking of adding some full length side rails to mount various weight racks and maybe supplemental hydraulic oil container.


Thank you!!!

I think I am still quite able at 61 years old, but the step is still awesome getting on and off vs. climbing up the back side.

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Originally posted by 1955CA 1955CA wrote:

Looking good! nice job you did. Nice to see another CA back to work.

I think I'm going to order one of those side steps now like you have. I have tractors parked so tight in my barn I can't climb on the rear like I normally do.

I'm thinking about do the same, but I'm thinking of adding some full length side rails to mount various weight racks and maybe supplemental hydraulic oil container.
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Looking good! nice job you did. Nice to see another CA back to work.

I think I'm going to order one of those side steps now like you have. I have tractors parked so tight in my barn I can't climb on the rear like I normally do.
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Originally posted by CA13414 CA13414 wrote:

Originally posted by dfwallis dfwallis wrote:

Power Adjust wheels have cam locks (and if present additional motion stop locks)


I am not sure, but is this something that is on a CA

Thanks!

Power adjust wheels were standard on a CA (those sliding rails for adjusting the wheels in or out).  Yours appears to have them.


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Originally posted by dfwallis dfwallis wrote:

Power Adjust wheels have cam locks (and if present additional motion stop locks)


I am not sure, but is this something that is on a CA

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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Re the clunk, before tearing down the final, double check the PA wheel clamps...Wink


Thank you,

Not sure exactly what the "PA Wheel Clamp" is. I looked in the parts manual and the shop manual and didn't see it.

As well, a big thanks to Steve for the PDF shop manual. Happy to forward to others as needed.

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Re the clunk, before tearing down the final, double check the PA wheel clamps...Wink
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Today, I noticed after about two hours of running that it was once again missing on number 2. Thus, took it apart to look. Have spark at the magneto coil but when I put it back together, nothing at the distributor cap/spark plug cables.

Thus, ordering new ones and will see what happens. Makes me think the rotor is the issue. Regardless, ordered the rotor, distributor cap, wires and new plugs.

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It looks really good doing some work!

Yep, you'll either have to keep cleaning the cap up every so often to remove the corrosion, or get a new one. The tractor probably deserves one at this point.
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Towards the end of the day, I noticed she was running a bit off. Pulled the spark plug wires and she was not firing on cylnder #2. There was no spark and switching out the wires and plugs did not make a difference. Thus, took off the distributor cap and used a bit of emory cloth to clean up the contacts.



After that she was running smooth and even. Should probably buy some new wires, plugs, rotor and distributor cap.
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Was able put our CA to work. Moved quite a bit of sand quite easily with the 6' blade. Thought I might need to add sides to the blade to make it a boxed blade, but it worked well. I suspect I moved about 5'ish tons + of sand.



After moving the sand then used the harrow.


After about 4 hours of work. She looks awesome. I got a ton of "thumbs up" from the neighbors!


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While driving down the road could hear a clunking. This was also notable with a slight left and right turn. I think the final drive shaft needs adjusting but wanted to ask other and see what you think.

Here is a link to a video of the noise from the final drive.

Also another of the PTO slack which I think needs a few shims.

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Quote :) Unfortunately, I made the wrong choice for a replacement radiator.  It was advertised as a CA replacement, but wasn't really.  It was close enough to make it work though.

I'd like to have it functional with a 3pt mod by october.


Agree, I bought an after market aluminum radiator which works well, however was not sized right. Had to really work to get the grill cover in place. It was about a 1/4" to high.... Uggg!

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