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Posted: 17 Feb 2022 at 6:27pm |
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Does anyone know of what Stant or other generic radiator cap crosses to the Allis part number 70228545? I stopped in NAPA today and the pimple faced kid didn't even what I was talking about when I mentioned Allis Chalmers. I tried to get him to get out a paper book for cooling system parts but he said "we don't use paper parts books any more". I know it just may be the NAPA stores in my area, but they have become a worthless as most other places around. I can get anything I want at the Heavy Truck parts place, although sometimes a generic part number helps for tractor stuff. BTW The cap I'm looking for fits all the letter series with a pressurized system and D series as well.
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Posted: 17 Feb 2022 at 6:42pm |
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The NAPA in Gettysburg will use a paper book. Always helpful when i go there.
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Posted: 17 Feb 2022 at 7:05pm |
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Sorry for the truth but the pimple faced kid is lazy. If need be the NAPA where I’m from will use the paper book. Sorry for the rant…….no I’m not.
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Posted: 17 Feb 2022 at 9:47pm |
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I know I have them on the shelf. Not sure what the number is but will look in the morning and report back.
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Posted: 18 Feb 2022 at 4:45am |
Paul, I did a google search, allis chalmers d-15 radiator cap napa, was the term used. halfway or so down the page napa #703-1411 came up as fitting a D-14. It may give you a number to throw at the pimple popper, so's he can say sorry we don't stock that.... 
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Posted: 19 Feb 2022 at 6:40pm |
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Don't need a NAPA number as the kid punching the keyboard at Thurmont at least was able to tell me that store had nothing in stock less than 10PSI. He was quick to let me know that anything less would need to be ordered. I just got a deer in the headlights look when I told him I could order one myself. I've done some research, finding a few different numbers and will go to the truck parts place Tuesday and I'll bet there's something there.
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Posted: 19 Feb 2022 at 6:46pm |
 PaulB wrote:
Does anyone know of what Stant or other generic radiator cap crosses to the Allis part number 70228545? I stopped in NAPA today and the pimple faced kid didn't even what I was talking about when I mentioned Allis Chalmers. I tried to get him to get out a paper book for cooling system parts but he said "we don't use paper parts books any more". I know it just may be the NAPA stores in my area, but they have become a worthless as most other places around. I can get anything I want at the Heavy Truck parts place, although sometimes a generic part number helps for tractor stuff. BTW The cap I'm looking for fits all the letter series with a pressurized system and D series as well. |
Are there NO Agco dealers in your Maryland area ??
Edited by FREEDGUY - 19 Feb 2022 at 6:47pm
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Posted: 19 Feb 2022 at 6:52pm |
AGCO ?? Everyone sells a cap... Standard 4 psi cap fits all the 1940 -50 -60 year tractors..... Wal Mart, Ebay, Amazon... every Farm Store.
ACS209 if you want the ROUND one.
Edited by steve(ill) - 19 Feb 2022 at 6:59pm
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Posted: 19 Feb 2022 at 7:08pm |
steve(ill) wrote:
AGCO ?? Everyone sells a cap... Standard 4 psi cap fits all the 1940 -50 -60 year tractors..... Wal Mart, Ebay, Amazon... every Farm Store.
ACS209 if you want the ROUND one. |
Apparently this guy from Maryland has issues ???? Our Agco dealer is WELL in line price -wise for filters/ non proprietary parts BTW, how do you know he's got a B that has a 4# cap ?? he NEVER gave a model
Edited by FREEDGUY - 19 Feb 2022 at 7:14pm
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Posted: 19 Feb 2022 at 7:10pm |
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In hindsight, this guy could get onto the DJ/s site (if it's still around) and get something ??
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Posted: 19 Feb 2022 at 8:02pm |
FREEDGUY wrote:
In hindsight, this guy could get onto the DJ/s site (if it's still around) and get something ?? |
This from the king of hindsight! 
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Posted: 19 Feb 2022 at 8:17pm |
BTW, how do you know he's got a B that has a 4# cap ?? he NEVER gave a model...
Come on Gassy... READ and do i little RESEARCH before you ask stupid questions..
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Posted: 19 Feb 2022 at 8:28pm |
NO WHERE was a B/C/WD series mentioned in the OP !! Maybe YOU need to read 
The lowest PSI "stat" that I've heard of is 8 pounds, apparently I'm incorrect ??
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Posted: 19 Feb 2022 at 8:31pm |
READ MY POST... It fits EVERYTHING from the 1940 - 1950 - 1960... and into the 1970s.... B, WD45, D14, D21, 7000 series !!
Even PAUL said..... BTW The cap I'm looking for fits all the letter series with a pressurized system and D series as well.
Edited by steve(ill) - 19 Feb 2022 at 8:33pm
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Posted: 19 Feb 2022 at 8:32pm |
The lowest PSI "stat" that I've heard of is 8 pounds, apparently I'm incorrect ??
Of course you are INCORRECT.... What else is new !!
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Posted: 20 Feb 2022 at 6:55am |
So NO ONE knows what a Stant or Gates # that would be for the 7PSI cap that was used on the later B, CAs and all the D series. The early tractors use the 4 PSI cap, which is not what I'm looking for I have a couple 4 PSI OEM caps here on my own personal parts department shelf. Yes, I can order one from any of the parts pimps or even Amazon, however I'm looking for something on the shelf locally. Aren't we supposed to buy local? Kinda hard to do when no place stocks anything. Those just adding to their post count are not doing anything constructive, and should just refill their 6pack. 💩 NO there are NO AGCO dealers here in Maryland. If I need anything AGCO it comes from Sandy Lake and generally is here in a few days. I found out the truck parts is going to be open for the Monday holiday, I'll bet they have one and will be able to match it just by looking at the old one. As for our local TSC store they certainly live up to Tought$hitCharlie The Shelves are Clear. Now if there was an AGRI-SUPPLY near here, we'd have something that could be called a "farm Store" 
Edited by PaulB - 20 Feb 2022 at 8:07am
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Posted: 20 Feb 2022 at 8:35am |
If you want the ROUND cap it is ABC1568
Edited by steve(ill) - 20 Feb 2022 at 9:14am
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Posted: 20 Feb 2022 at 8:38am |
If you want a cap with EARS it is ABC1396
Edited by steve(ill) - 20 Feb 2022 at 9:14am
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Posted: 20 Feb 2022 at 8:50am |
By application Gates shows their 31306 (7 psi) cap fits a D14.
If you use the AGCO Dealer locator, I believe you will find a number of various AGCO dealers in Maryland. Admittedly it doesn't show AC or AGCO Allis, but I believe most of the other AGCO brand dealers, such as Massey Ferguson, can order AC parts. At least the local MF dealer here can and has gotten parts for me.
Edited by Jim.ME - 20 Feb 2022 at 8:59am
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Posted: 20 Feb 2022 at 7:13pm |
Thanks Jim.ME that is the number I'm looking for, those ABC Stiner numbers that the parts pimps use go nowhere outside of the parts pimp realm. You also remined me that the MF dealer; D.W.OGG is an AGCO affiliate. Although I never think of them as they don't even stock Massey parts. Whenever I gone there looking for something MF, all I ever heard is "that's old. We don't stock parts for anything old". To which I reply "New tractors are not supposed to need repair parts, old tractors are." With that Gates number, I'm sure I'll find something on the shelf at Fleetpride.
Edited by PaulB - 20 Feb 2022 at 7:59pm
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Posted: 20 Feb 2022 at 7:51pm |
You could try MM Weaver. Now, as for the modern Stant company. Go to their website. Useless for finding parts, no cross reference. But in the "about us" section they talk about being green, socially responsible and more. Not a clue that they have been making
radiator caps and thermostats for over 100 years.
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Posted: 20 Feb 2022 at 8:24pm |
ABC numbers are an INDUSTRY Standard... EVERYONE uses them.
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Posted: 20 Feb 2022 at 9:18pm |
Oh brother! I gotta' good laugh outta' the pimply kid behind the counter comment. Quite a few years back I had a rear axle bearing making noise in my 29' pickup hotrod. I had a 8" Maverick rear under it. So I bring the axle/bearing in Advanced Auto Parts for show n' tell, and there's that pimply faced kid behind the counter. I said to him I need an axle bearing for a 77 Maverick. I then got the deer in the headlights look. He says "I'm sorry sir, who made a Maverick"? I said wow son, yer' making me feel old. Just then an older gent bout' my age (probably the manager) came out from one of the aisles behind the kid and yell's "Ford made the Maverick'!!! "Ford made the Maverick!!!  The pimply faced kid looked at me, then looked at him and said "Hey, how am I supposed to know" "That was before my time!" I about fell over laughing. But ya know what? They had the bearing in stock. Surprised me as well! The entertainment value was high that day. Steve@B&B
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Posted: 20 Feb 2022 at 9:32pm |
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Who is the manufacturer of the ABC numbered caps? I am thinking the ABC numbers are from an aftermarket supplier, used by the aftermarket vendors as shown in the list you posted. That ABC1396 doesn't cross in Gates and it would seem it should if it is an industry standard number. Just curious about their source.
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Posted: 21 Feb 2022 at 6:14pm |
steve(ill) wrote:
ABC numbers are an INDUSTRY Standard... EVERYONE uses them.
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Those ABC or Stiner numbers aren't used by anyone outside of the aftermarket (China) tractor parts sellers AKA parts pimps. To get something through a car/truck parts place you need an industry standard part number such as Stant or Gates for examples. With the Gates number that Jim.ME gave the truck parts place had 4 on the shelf. After getting home I called the main NAPA store in Frederick and asked for a match to the Gates #31306 and as I guessed, NOTHING at any of the local (4) stores, would need to come from the regional wharehouse and added shipping. Thank you I said but I can get them from the truck parts here in town or order from just about anywhere without extra shipping.
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Posted: 21 Feb 2022 at 6:25pm |
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they shouldn’t charge shipping. All Napa stores get freight from the warehouse Tuesday through Saturday morning. If they need to ship from a warehouse other than there primary then there may be freight but most warehouses have a shuttle to transfer in freight free. There is something fishy there!
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