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Pat the Plumber CIL 
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 Topic: Auction pics , sorry no prices
Posted: 01 May 2016 at 9:33pm |
Went to an auction by Peoria today . Time was limited and lots of smalls had to sell before they could get to the equipment . dead mans sale Clean NF D-17 Ser IV Good ; tin perfect ,tach had 1337 hours on it , pedals looked new , drawbar hole round little to no wear .Paint not wore off top of power director looked factory paint , full set rear weights Bad ; calcium leaked onto rim and rail on one side , no key but engine was free , clutch pedal all the way down and not wanting to move , never heard it run ,    
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 01 May 2016 at 9:35pm |
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Had to leave and did not get prices . I am kicking myself for not sticking around . Would have seen what it brought . Huge crowd , parked 1/2 mile down the road
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 01 May 2016 at 9:43pm |
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 01 May 2016 at 9:51pm |
Clean 2 bottom plow . 70 - series ? triangle logos on it , Nothing broke and everything correct  
Edited by Pat the Plumber CIL - 01 May 2016 at 9:53pm
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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Play Farmer
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Posted: 01 May 2016 at 10:00pm |
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Nice looking tractor, for sure. I would say it had been painted, due to the overspray seen (shifter boot & gauge), but still a darn nice piece.
Edited by Play Farmer - 01 May 2016 at 10:01pm
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Posted: 01 May 2016 at 11:12pm |
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Believe the box blade corners are original. Have a set like them
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Posted: 01 May 2016 at 11:40pm |
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Anybody know prices?
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:21am |
 Play Farmer wrote:
Nice looking tractor, for sure. I would say it had been painted, due to the overspray seen (shifter boot & gauge), but still a darn nice piece.
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The boot was painted at the factory,don't see paint on a guage.....no wear showing,I'm betting original low hour.Them rear tires look like a factory install.
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:35am |
SteveM C/IL wrote:
Play Farmer wrote:
Nice looking tractor, for sure. I would say it had been painted, due to the overspray seen (shifter boot & gauge), but still a darn nice piece.
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The boot was painted at the factory,don't see paint on a guage.....no wear showing,I'm betting original low hour.Them rear tires look like a factory install. |
Just curious, how do the rear tires look like a factory install. I mean, how would you tell the difference?
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:46am |
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I'd love to have that tractor...NF Series IV is on my wish list. Mike
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:50am |
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That is a great looking 17. Makes mine look like crap in a mitten!:) But I did hear mine run and most of the systems are working. I would guess that tractor brought $3,000 + due to the good condition and the model? Just a guess. If it did not run that might have held the price down. But a very nice tractor. Now does it have power steering? May be different set up than my old 58?
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:10am |
Sugarmaker wrote:
That is a great looking 17. Makes mine look like crap in a mitten!:) But I did hear mine run and most of the systems are working. I would guess that tractor brought $3,000 + due to the good condition and the model? Just a guess. If it did not run that might have held the price down. But a very nice tractor. Now does it have power steering? May be different set up than my old 58?
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Yes, the series IV has a different PS set up. It has a small pump above the generator on the left side of the tractor. You can see it in the picture. That tractor looks too good to be original - not a scratch on it. I would guess it to be an older repaint that had seen very little use. It looks like someone used a bolt and nut to attach the clutch rod to the pedal - a common wear spot. Maybe the tach quit working at 1300 hours? Still a very clean tractor from the pictures. I would not kick it out of my barn!
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:12am |
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Sugarmaker it should be power steering on the left side picture that is the pump above the alternator isn't it. Leon
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 12:06pm |
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Clutch pedal was in position like it was pushed down. Would not move very far in either direction. Believe mice filled the clutch cavity. I tried to get info from the auctioneer but they were busy and could not talk. Tractor looks like it was the only thing that the guy took care of. If it was repainted they did a good job. Still kicking myself for not sticking around . Anybody spot the eye lids on the lights.
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 1:05pm |
BenGiBoy wrote:
SteveM C/IL wrote:
Play Farmer wrote:
Nice looking tractor, for sure. I would say it had been painted, due to the overspray seen (shifter boot & gauge), but still a darn nice piece.
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The boot was painted at the factory,don't see paint on a guage.....no wear showing,I'm betting original low hour.Them rear tires look like a factory install. |
Just curious, how do the rear tires look like a factory install. I mean, how would you tell the difference?
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just going by style of bars.Common design back then and were ok in dry dirt but sucked in mud.
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 2:27pm |
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OK, I wondered if that might have been it, but since you said that it looked like a factory install I wasn't sure. Thanks!
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Play Farmer
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 2:33pm |
SteveM C/IL wrote:
Play Farmer wrote:
Nice looking tractor, for sure. I would say it had been painted, due to the overspray seen (shifter boot & gauge), but still a darn nice piece.
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The boot was painted at the factory,don't see paint on a guage.....no wear showing,I'm betting original low hour.Them rear tires look like a factory install. |
Man have times changed! I can't imagine them painting a shifter boot today. Probably the paint I was looking at is also factory???
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:27pm |
The shade of orange on the block doesn't seem to quite match the rest of the tractor either; could be the light, ..... and if its wasn't repainted, that means it still has its original coil too....I do see other signs that it was, at the very least, touched up here and there over the years. Original Persian Orange II seems like it should appear a little bit more on the reddish side than this......Factory or not, its still a super straight machine. Someone really loved it ; but then it seems like it sat for a good bit.
Also note the AC emblem above the grill was replaced with an earlier style logo one.
Edited by JayD-17(NY) - 02 May 2016 at 8:29pm
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:43pm |
It's an early Series IV so the emblem above the grill is likely original. Very nice tractor. Around here it's a $4500-5000 tractor.
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:49pm |
JayD-17(NY) wrote:
The shade of orange on the block doesn't seem to quite match the rest of the tractor either; could be the light, ..... and if its wasn't repainted, that means it still has its original coil too....I do see other signs that it was, at the very least, touched up here and there over the years. Original Persian Orange II seems like it should appear a little bit more on the reddish side than this......Factory or not, its still a super straight machine. Someone really loved it ; but then it seems like it sat for a good bit.
Also note the AC emblem above the grill was replaced with an earlier style logo one.
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With the headlight shields and the earlier style emblem, that makes it a 1964 Series IV model tractor. No headlight shields on 65 models and the emblem changed in late 65/early 66. The arrows pointing on the dash are for the light fuse and the hydraulic pressure indicator light. These changes came about with the series III model. Earlier tractors did not have these.
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:08pm |
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Interesting, didn't know that about the '64's.What about the decals then? Would the 64's originally have that silver rectangular border around the "Allis-Chalmers" name or did that come later?
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:21pm |
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they used the tractor to move all them hay racks' was said it brought $2150oo
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:24pm |
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Serial # is 79730 . early 65 by my Data book . Both my 64 Ser IV D-17 and 64 Ser II D-15 have the round starburst badges on front of them
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:24pm |
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If that price is correct,that was a steal.
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:25pm |
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Dammit , knew I should have stuck around , may not of bought it , but it would have sold for more than that
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:34pm |
JayD-17(NY) wrote:
Interesting, didn't know that about the '64's.What about the decals then? Would the 64's originally have that silver rectangular border around the "Allis-Chalmers" name or did that come later? |
The silver border can be found on series III models. Neighbor has a beautiful completely original Series III diesel with the silver border decals.
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:45pm |
Thats a nice Series IV. As far as the paint or hours being original thats hard to tell by the pictures. First off I would say there should be foil back decals on it? Not 100% sure on that. But, I am sure there would not be a haze of orange on the instrument panel. Look around the gauges, you will see it. Also, most low hour tractors like that will have more visible engine turning on the panel around the gauges.
How did the steering wheel look? Thats always a good indicator on wear.
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Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:55pm |
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One darn good looking tractor for $2150 !
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Posted: 03 May 2016 at 7:18am |
DSeries4 wrote:
JayD-17(NY) wrote:
The shade of orange on the block doesn't seem to quite match the rest of the tractor either; could be the light, ..... and if its wasn't repainted, that means it still has its original coil too....I do see other signs that it was, at the very least, touched up here and there over the years. Original Persian Orange II seems like it should appear a little bit more on the reddish side than this......Factory or not, its still a super straight machine. Someone really loved it ; but then it seems like it sat for a good bit.
Also note the AC emblem above the grill was replaced with an earlier style logo one.
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With the headlight shields and the earlier style emblem, that makes it a 1964 Series IV model tractor. No headlight shields on 65 models and the emblem changed in late 65/early 66.
The arrows pointing on the dash are for the light fuse and the hydraulic pressure indicator light. These changes came about with the series III model. Earlier tractors did not have these.
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The headlight shields are available aftermarket also.
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Posted: 03 May 2016 at 7:49am |
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Someone got a very nice looking tractor! I think it was a repaint at one time, but still shows very well.
Pat, thanks for posting.
Regards,
Chris
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