Auction pics , sorry no prices
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Topic: Auction pics , sorry no prices
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Subject: Auction pics , sorry no prices
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 9:33pm
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Went to an auction by Peoria today . Time was limited and lots of smalls had to sell before they could get to the equipment . dead mans sale Clean NF D-17 Ser IV Good ; tin perfect ,tach had 1337 hours on it , pedals looked new , drawbar hole round little to no wear .Paint not wore off top of power director looked factory paint , full set rear weights Bad ; calcium leaked onto rim and rail on one side , no key but engine was free , clutch pedal all the way down and not wanting to move , never heard it run , http://s380.photobucket.com/user/j_midden/media/009_zpsqovsgphz.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s380.photobucket.com/user/j_midden/media/011_zpsnyyexcw5.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s380.photobucket.com/user/j_midden/media/008_zpsfgzuyamv.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s380.photobucket.com/user/j_midden/media/012_zps99gozugi.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
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Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 9:35pm
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Had to leave and did not get prices . I am kicking myself for not sticking around . Would have seen what it brought . Huge crowd , parked 1/2 mile down the road ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 9:43pm
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Snap coupler blade with extensions . looks like he made some extensions to push more snow . Are the corners factory ? Believe they made some to make blade a box blade . orange paint on them http://s380.photobucket.com/user/j_midden/media/003_zps1hwps9an.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s380.photobucket.com/user/j_midden/media/002_zpskzn1sse4.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s380.photobucket.com/user/j_midden/media/004_zpsexm37lwg.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s380.photobucket.com/user/j_midden/media/001_zpsoriyv8nu.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 9:51pm
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Clean 2 bottom plow . 70 - series ? triangle logos on it , Nothing broke and everything correct http://s380.photobucket.com/user/j_midden/media/005_zpsffbmpf7g.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s380.photobucket.com/user/j_midden/media/006_zps7juk857h.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: Play Farmer
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 10:00pm
| Nice looking tractor, for sure. I would say it had been painted, due to the overspray seen (shifter boot & gauge), but still a darn nice piece. |
Posted By: Bill Deppe/AC Salvag
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 11:12pm
| Believe the box blade corners are original. Have a set like them |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 11:40pm
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Anybody know prices? ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:21am
The boot was painted at the factory,don't see paint on a guage.....no wear showing,I'm betting original low hour.Them rear tires look like a factory install. |
Play Farmer wrote:Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:35am
Just curious, how do the rear tires look like a factory install. I mean, how would you tell the difference? ------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that! |
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:46am
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I'd love to have that tractor...NF Series IV is on my wish list. Mike
------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:50am
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That is a great looking 17. Makes mine look like crap in a mitten!:) But I did hear mine run and most of the systems are working. I would guess that tractor brought $3,000 + due to the good condition and the model? Just a guess. If it did not run that might have held the price down. But a very nice tractor. Now does it have power steering? May be different set up than my old 58? Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:10am
Yes, the series IV has a different PS set up. It has a small pump above the generator on the left side of the tractor. You can see it in the picture. That tractor looks too good to be original - not a scratch on it. I would guess it to be an older repaint that had seen very little use. It looks like someone used a bolt and nut to attach the clutch rod to the pedal - a common wear spot. Maybe the tach quit working at 1300 hours? Still a very clean tractor from the pictures. I would not kick it out of my barn! ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: Leon n/c AR.
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:12am
| Sugarmaker it should be power steering on the left side picture that is the pump above the alternator isn't it. Leon |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 12:06pm
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Clutch pedal was in position like it was pushed down. Would not move very far in either direction. Believe mice filled the clutch cavity. I tried to get info from the auctioneer but they were busy and could not talk. Tractor looks like it was the only thing that the guy took care of. If it was repainted they did a good job. Still kicking myself for not sticking around . Anybody spot the eye lids on the lights. ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 1:05pm
just going by style of bars.Common design back then and were ok in dry dirt but sucked in mud. |
Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 2:27pm
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OK, I wondered if that might have been it, but since you said that it looked like a factory install I wasn't sure. Thanks! ------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that! |
Posted By: Play Farmer
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 2:33pm
Man have times changed! I can't imagine them painting a shifter boot today. Probably the paint I was looking at is also factory???  |
Posted By: JayD-17(NY)
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:27pm
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The shade of orange on the block doesn't seem to quite match the rest of the tractor either; could be the light, ..... and if its wasn't repainted, that means it still has its original coil too....I do see other signs that it was, at the very least, touched up here and there over the years. Original Persian Orange II seems like it should appear a little bit more on the reddish side than this......Factory or not, its still a super straight machine. Someone really loved it ; but then it seems like it sat for a good bit. Also note the AC emblem above the grill was replaced with an earlier style logo one. |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:43pm
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It's an early Series IV so the emblem above the grill is likely original. Very nice tractor. Around here it's a $4500-5000 tractor. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:49pm
With the headlight shields and the earlier style emblem, that makes it a 1964 Series IV model tractor. No headlight shields on 65 models and the emblem changed in late 65/early 66. The arrows pointing on the dash are for the light fuse and the hydraulic pressure indicator light. These changes came about with the series III model. Earlier tractors did not have these. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: JayD-17(NY)
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:08pm
| Interesting, didn't know that about the '64's.What about the decals then? Would the 64's originally have that silver rectangular border around the "Allis-Chalmers" name or did that come later? |
Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:21pm
| they used the tractor to move all them hay racks' was said it brought $2150oo |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:24pm
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Serial # is 79730 . early 65 by my Data book . Both my 64 Ser IV D-17 and 64 Ser II D-15 have the round starburst badges on front of them ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: Lynn Marshall
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:24pm
| If that price is correct,that was a steal. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:25pm
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Dammit , knew I should have stuck around , may not of bought it , but it would have sold for more than that ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:34pm
The silver border can be found on series III models. Neighbor has a beautiful completely original Series III diesel with the silver border decals. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:45pm
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Thats a nice Series IV. As far as the paint or hours being original thats hard to tell by the pictures. First off I would say there should be foil back decals on it? Not 100% sure on that. But, I am sure there would not be a haze of orange on the instrument panel. Look around the gauges, you will see it. Also, most low hour tractors like that will have more visible engine turning on the panel around the gauges. How did the steering wheel look? Thats always a good indicator on wear. Jim ------------- An open eye is much more observant than an open mouth |
Posted By: ACmowerguy
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:55pm
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One darn good looking tractor for $2150 ! ------------- 10 various B-series garden tractors, AC Homesteader8, 416 hydro,710 gt, 914, 916H, 917H, 920D, and many misc attachments |
Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 7:18am
The headlight shields are available aftermarket also. ------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that! |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 7:49am
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Someone got a very nice looking tractor! I think it was a repaint at one time, but still shows very well. Pat, thanks for posting. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 9:02am
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My Series IV is SN80314 making it a late 65. I don't remember it having the headlight eyebrows as a kid . It did still have both wheel and nose emblems with the starburst logo but the decal on the back of the seat was the new triangle logo. I put aftermarket eyebrows on when I fixed it up in 2006. Mike PS. Edit to add it had 5 bolt fronts. ------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 9:59am
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I have a nice original D-17 IV diesel serial 83780 making it a 1966. No eyebrows, triangle logos, 6 bolt front wheels. I'd like to know exactly when they changed to 6 bolt fronts on the D-17 IV's and D-15 II's. As was said the chrome outline on the decal was Series III and early D-15 II's. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: DON G
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 7:19pm
 We have one like that. Series 4 NF. Bought in 1983 for only $1500.
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 7:40pm
| mostly my point about orange everywhere is from days at least through WD45's when the tractor was assembled and then EVERYTHING got sprayed.Plug wires,"boots" of all shapes,steering wheels,switches genny&starters.Even the rubber tips on throttle & hyd levers.Can't imagine they changed their ways much through the D series. |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 8:21pm
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I have a 64 Series IV, same decals, same emblems and factory light shades. Noticed no cracks on the steering and most of the crème color is still on it. Nice tractor, even if it's a snap coupler tractor someone got a deal. ------------- AGCO My Allis Gleaner Company |
Posted By: Justthemechanic190
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 9:15pm
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I was at the sale and stayed til the equipment was sold, we bought the 1 row AC subsoiler. The D17 brought $4900. It ran like a top, but the clutch was seized due to a mouse nest in the bellhousing is what they told everyone. I heard that it was original tinwork that hadn't been painted and the chassis had and I heard it was all original, don't know for sure. The 2 bottom plow brought $425, and the rear blade brought over $300 |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 9:33pm
Calvin, my neighbor has a mid 1965 D17 IV (we sold it to him) and it still had the 5 bolt hub. My 1966 D15 II built around April or May has the 6 bolt hubs (and the triangle emblem). Hope this helps narrow things down. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 9:46pm
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Glad to hear it brought that much, I don't feel bad for leaving . I am sure A/C used up there stock designated for manufacture .Much like the WD's with curved shifters .Keep using the 5 bolt hubs and starburst emblems until they were gone . ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 04 May 2016 at 6:41am
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Good morning, Like Pat I don't feel so bad knowing the price it went for. It was worth that because it sure looks good. And if it ran good then it was a super value for the buyer. You would have a hard time finding and building one for those dollars. Thanks for getting the selling price for us. We haven't heard from the new owner yet! Plow went higher than I would have expected. Speaking of which my D17 is calling me to plow the remaining 5 acres behind the house!:) Have a great day guys! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |