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tbran ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paris Tn Points: 3531 |
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Agco parts promo's just had a "weekly special" on tool boxes branded MF, Oliver, Challenger and MM - no AC. Soooo I fired off a very nasty email the likes of what has been expressed here many times. I received a response ---------
<Hi Tim: We didn’t do Allis because as big a heritage as it is, our experience is that we don’t usually sell many of these items. Can’t speak for toys – just things like the tool box. I am always willing to investigate another potential sales opportunity. How many do you think you could sell? > So, the dealer net is $32 plus frt. unless we get enough true commitments ... we don't have a grip. Now I am sure we can't get in on THIS deal - but if a dealer had them for sale a $39 - how many of youse guys would pop for a 7 pound metal tool box with Allis-Chalmers logo on it? Evidently the Oliver, MF, MM and Challenger guys are???? |
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When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22825 |
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How do you hear about the "weekly specials" ?
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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Sam T-Ga ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Monticello, Ga. Points: 392 |
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I'll take 2. You got a picture and size? Sam
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bdallman ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Nov 2011 Location: Holton KS Points: 1133 |
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I'll take one!!!
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1954 CA, 1952 WD with Freeman Loader,1955 WD45, 1963 D19 Gas, 1984 620H, 1980’s AC Forklift, 66 All Crop Harvester, White Top Roto Baler, Misc S.C. Equip and AC Collectibles.
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SHAMELESS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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yep...me too!
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tornado8070 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Location: MI Points: 1341 |
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Sign me up for 2! What crock of s@&t!!!
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09’ DT205B, 08’ DT220A, 83' 8070 MFWD, 83’ 8070 85’ 8050 MFWD, 83' 8030, 82' 8010, 85’ 6080 MFWD, 84’ 6080, 79' 7020, 85' M3 RWD, 85' 920 diesel,AC C-50 forklift.
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8455 |
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What do they look like?
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AllisChalmers8070 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 2016 Location: Knox County IN Points: 124 |
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I will take 2!
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Scooterboy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 06 Aug 2013 Points: 419 |
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Put Mahindra on it and I'll take one.
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Tim NH ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 16 Oct 2012 Location: Lancaster NH Points: 1125 |
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I would take one.
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1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207
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tornado8070 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Location: MI Points: 1341 |
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Agco rep came outta hiding at tha parts sale at my nearest dealer that I do bussiness with. As I stood there chatting in my vintage AC coat with the retired AC mechanic from the dealership I grew up going to with my father, he approached me and I was introduced to him. Now this individual grew up heritage Oliver in which I respect. As he commently very politely about my coat stating he was a Oliver man, I asked him straight up why the Orange got dropped? His comment was lack of sales. I proceeded to ask him how the new S series Gleaners were doing in sales. He said that they hadn't went into production due to low order numbers. I asked him if he kne Kevin Bean? He said on a professional level....yes. He then told me Kevin is retiring the end of the year or at least is planning it. Knowing this my guts are wondering how long before the Gleaner is badged Gleaner by Massey ferguson? Now back to the toolbox.....to a large company such as Agco for them to offer AC guys an orange toolbox with a triangle on sure ain't gonna make or brake them!!!!! Perhaps they wonder why Agco can't sell the best combine on the market today!!! Rant over!!!!!
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09’ DT205B, 08’ DT220A, 83' 8070 MFWD, 83’ 8070 85’ 8050 MFWD, 83' 8030, 82' 8010, 85’ 6080 MFWD, 84’ 6080, 79' 7020, 85' M3 RWD, 85' 920 diesel,AC C-50 forklift.
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Alex09(WI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 2012 Location: CECIL WI Points: 1752 |
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I would take 2. If I could show a picture to my customers, some of them might want some also.
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LeonR2013 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Location: Fulton, Mo Points: 3500 |
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Well,well. It seems to me there's a pound of jealousy here. Why would anyone buy a real good product apparently lock stock and barrel and not continue to build as is or continue a program of improvement? To me, just me prolly, jealousy is the strongest emotion out there. So Deutz being a good product thought they were the biggest duck in the puddle, and have been up to this point, so they set out to ruin the image of Allis Chalmers. They didn't win the war, but they saw a way to hurt a strong company. I absolutely am not taking sides here but that's just the way powerful men in business opporate. They have the gold, so they rule, and heaven forbid if someone gets in their way. Allis also had this problem, but it seems not to the extent of Deutz and didn't look over the horizon and see the storm on the way. Sometimes it's best to hunker down, let the storm blow over, pick up the pieces and just keep on keepin' on. But Deutz with their huge European market didn't have to hunker down as far and it didn't take them as long to recover. Plus they had the gold. I don't claim to be financial stratotician, but when Eisenhower became pres. in '54 dad told me he came right out and said there were 4 million to many farmers he said that's the end of life as we now know it. Give you one guess what happened. Corporate farming. That was the cloud beyond the horizon. This is the last thing I have to say on this subject,(thank God you say), but let me go on record as saying that I do not agree with overthrowing the gov. or resisting the established authority. That's God's decision not mine. Now you're saying,"I thought he said he was done". I am. Pfffft as our unknown friend would say. Leon R Cmo
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JimIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Castalia Iowa Points: 1983 |
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Tim,
You beat me to emailing them on the toolboxes. If you get them to make them I will try to talk the boss into ordering a couple. Jim
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An open eye is much more observant than an open mouth
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8726 |
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Yea let us know. See if my agco parts guy can get some. Will it be made in the states.
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8726 |
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That's why sometimes I will buy agco parts instead of cheaper aftermarket. Not sure if I'm right but I kinda feel by buying agco, they will see that the part is still being bought and keep producing them.
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AllisChalmers8070 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 2016 Location: Knox County IN Points: 124 |
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On top of that Mike I just like going to the local dealer.
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180 190XT 7045 7060 S88
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8726 |
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Yea me to and help him keep the parts line.
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8358 |
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If Kevin is retiring,,,, good bye Gleaner,,, they will be a Red Massey Ferguson with an Agco badge,,,
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8646 |
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Tim,you got a pic of any of the others? We can use our imagination on the color and logos.Can't hardly buy a metal toolbox these days.
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SHAMELESS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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tell them to print on them "special addition"
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427435 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Nov 2010 Location: SE Minnesota Points: 18637 |
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Put me in for one.
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Mark
B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
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Craig/insoh ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Mar 2010 Location: Waverly,ohio Points: 229 |
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I would like at least 2 maybe more!!
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KY poorboy ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Location: West KY Points: 933 |
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Tim, Matt and I will take 4 if you can get them to do it. I'll be down in a couple days for parts too. Thanks
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albatros_3 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 16 Apr 2012 Location: SE Michigan Points: 451 |
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And I was just considering buying a toolbox to keep in my truck. I'll take one for sure.
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24723 |
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heck with the tool box WHY do they charge $60 for a D-14 manifold gasket !!!?????
reminds me I have to order one from 'south of the 49th'..... Jay |
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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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I need 1 for a 200 that does not have 1.
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BrianC ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 16 Jun 2011 Location: New York Points: 1619 |
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I tried to find the weekly specials on the net, no luck. Maybe they mail a flyer to you, like Harbor Tools?
I did find the toolbox (at no special deal) on their web site. toolbox So surfing around the Massey Ferguson site, I see the 2600 line is now the 2700 line (I think emissions changes). Bad news is they dropped the 2wd option, now only 4wd. So your good old 2wd inexpensive small farm tractor options are now reduced. When it comes to heritage line tractors, I wonder how Agco's spare parts revenue is proportioned between Oliver, MM and Allis-Chalmers. Is it possible they sell more MM parts than Allis? |
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Play Farmer ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Jan 2016 Location: NNY Points: 732 |
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OK...I'll ask;
Why not just buy this from Harbor Freight - $17.99 before the coupon; ![]() I know, this is a 17" box, not a 20", but they have other options, as does about every other hardware store. and this (or whatever other color you'd like) from Tractor Supply for $4.00; And this off of Ebay for $3.50; ![]() You'd be under $24.00 all in and still have some paint left over.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12218 |
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