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    Posted: 07 Apr 2015 at 6:57am
What covers the hole for the starter on a hand cranker?  I want to keep my C solely a hand cranker.
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I believe that the early hand crankers didn't have a hole at all....
Different torque tube.
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I concur.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dick L Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Apr 2015 at 7:53am
Originally posted by Hubnut Hubnut wrote:

What covers the hole for the starter on a hand cranker?  I want to keep my C solely a hand cranker.



I have seen pictures of the C that were hand crank tractors from the factory, after they discontinued making the torque tube without the hole, that had a cover like a core plug. You could most likely make one out of 16 gage steel. Make a cardboard pattern, cut the steel slightly larger, lay the cut piece on a bag of sand and tap from the center out until you have a slight dome with it sliding in the hole. Probly have to file to fit. You would not need a very high dome, just enough to cause it to expand tight in the hole when you flatten it when in the hole against a stop at the outside. You would need to make a stop inside the hole to install it with the torque tube on the tractor. With the torque tube off you could use a starter drive end slid in from the inside as a stop.
It looked much like the one used in the first power take off units.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bill Deppe/AC Salvag Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Apr 2015 at 8:48am
Seems it was commented the knock out plug on the back of a WC differential was the same
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Bill is correct - the differential cover from a wc was the same used to cover the starter hole.
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Bill is spot on I just looked it up and the rear plug from a WC with ser# 67328 & up out of a cast iron rear end will fit, they have the same part number. AGCO # 70201814
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There ya go!
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Thanks all.
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I have one that I purchased from Matt(Mn) if you want a pattern.
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I have nos and used plugs for sale. Send me a pm if your still looking.   Thanks Matt
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