Today back in 1973

So they missed NFMS for a launch?

just happened to be there. Cab was 78db

If I am not mistaken , a few of the non cab 7030's hit dealer lots before the intro...

Some early 7030's (at least) weren't available with factory cabs until a few months into production. I know. I had a customer who had a Hiniker on his and that was the story. ROPS cabs also had to get certified to be able to be retailed. Not sure that was yet done in Feb of 73.

We sold two with aftermarket cabs before factory cabs.       MACK

7030 diesel...… 426 turbocharged, power steering, H/D adjustable front axle, Cat 2/3 three point hitch, two valves/remote outlets, swinging drawbar, differential lock, 1000 RPM PTO, wheel guards, deluxe seat, 16-speed Power Director transmission, 10.00 x 16 frt tires and 18.4 x 38 (8 ply) rear tires, shipping weight 10,697 lbs.  Retail price $17,035.      EXTRAS:  Cab $1830...…..Cab and A/C $2564.    This would have been the last price given in 1974. Early 1973 models may have been a little less money.      Similar equipped 7050 tractor was $19,550 and weight was 10,813 lbs.

The 7030 @130 PTO HP was $131 per HP.     The 7050 @155 PTO HP was a better deal at $126 per HP.   What should have been done (armchair quarterback talking) was take the 7030 chassis and instead of cast rear wheel centers, use a heavy dual wheel steel center (cost/weight reduction), install the intercooled 301 engine and create a 110 HP new model called the "7010" at about $14,850 in 1973.  That's what should have been done. The model 200 at 94 HP and then the 7010 at 110 HP.

DrAllis wrote: The 7030 @130 PTO HP was $131 per HP.     The 7050 @155 PTO HP was a better deal at $126 per HP.   What should have been done (armchair quarterback talking) was take the 7030 chassis and instead of cast rear wheel centers, use a heavy dual wheel steel center (cost/weight reduction), install the intercooled 301 engine and create a 110 HP new model called the "7010" at about $14,850 in 1973.  That's what should have been done. The model 200 at 94 HP and then the 7010 at 110 HP.

The 7010 was on the drawing board and I think I saw a picture of a maroon belly 7010 in one of the Allis books written by Norm Swinford but it was deemed too expensive to market at the time.

If they'd have made my 7010 in 1973, even if they didn't make a dime on it, it still would have been utilizing the "new" tractor family and the cost per unit (over time) would have come down and the exposure of this new breed of tractor would have increased, which in the end, should have helped with overall new big AC tractor sales. My opinion is they would have sold as many or more 7010's as they did 7050's, because 110 HP was a more popular size. I'm jus sayin...……..

Edited by DrAllis - 23 Feb 2020 at 3:52pm

nick121 wrote: I'd think you would be a pretty big dog buying a new 7050 back in the day! Actually seems like they were well ahead of most of the other manufactures back in 73 . They are a pretty light tractor to me but they've lasted the test of time..

Light compared to what?

unballasted 4440 with cab and cast duals = 14,470#

Quite a price jump from 73 to 81 !

DrAllis wrote: 7030 diesel...… 426 turbocharged, power steering, H/D adjustable front axle, Cat 2/3 three point hitch, two valves/remote outlets, swinging drawbar, differential lock, 1000 RPM PTO, wheel guards, deluxe seat, 16-speed Power Director transmission, 10.00 x 16 frt tires and 18.4 x 38 (8 ply) rear tires, shipping weight 10,697 lbs.  Retail price $17,035.      EXTRAS:  Cab $1830...…..Cab and A/C $2564.    This would have been the last price given in 1974. Early 1973 models may have been a little less money.      Similar equipped 7050 tractor was $19,550 and weight was 10,813 lbs.

Very interesting prices. Thanks for sharing.

Sherman Farms wrote: Bought a new 7050 demonstrator with 24.5 tires and e year round cab in 1974 for $15,500 no trade. Bought a new 7060 with 18.4 -38 tires,factory cab, front and rear weights in 1975 for $20,000 no trade. Both were great tractors.We pulled 6-18 2000 series plows with them.

Thanks for sharing. Congratulations on buying both of them new & only one year apart. Do you have any photos that you’d share of them when they were delivered to the farm or nearly new working??

Edited by AC7060IL - 27 Feb 2020 at 7:18pm

Sherman Farms wrote: Yes i have photos but will have to have my son try to post them. Have a photo of 7060 pulling a grain drill last year.

Yes loading photos on the forum is somewhat tricky. If it helps, you can person message photos to me via my email. Then I'd gladly load them onto the forum for you.

Edited by AC7060IL - 27 Feb 2020 at 7:36pm