The S9's are out!

Go to www.gleanercombines.com

They look a lot "meaner" that the S8's!

Looks straight out of the next Transformers movie. Very impressive

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I don't understand why they show all the advantages of the amazing Gleaner transverse rotor combines and how they are far superior to Axial-flow machines, yet AGCO also manufactures MF axials????

is the sheet metal galvanized, or just painted?

I suspect there are more then 15 MF buyers, at least 25! lol
I wonder how Gleaners compare to JD and CIH on price. If sold by the pound they should be cheaper as they are as much as 25% lighter then competing brands.

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CAL(KS) wrote:

CrestonM wrote:

I don't understand why they show all the advantages of the amazing Gleaner transverse rotor combines and how they are far superior to Axial-flow machines, yet AGCO also manufactures MF axials????

to please the 15 buyers in north america that like massey and want more moving parts and belts

Have you looked at a new Massey? Very few moving parts, would definitely be considered for a second choice.

bigal121892 wrote:

JohnCO wrote:

I suspect there are more then 15 MF buyers, at least 25! lol
I wonder how Gleaners compare to JD and CIH on price. If sold by the pound they should be cheaper as they are as much as 25% lighter then competing brands.

The cost of a combine, isn't in the materials, it's in the engineering.

Plus the cost of tooling and the cost of purchased materials. If the tooling can be spread over a larger number of units, it can be cheaper. And you often get a price break if you buy in higher quantities.

Mark

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Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.

Massey and Gleaners are made in the same factory. And the 5 challengers they build a year LOL!!!! Agco sell a lot more Gleaners then Masseys. And Gleaners are no cheaper then a JD or CIH.

Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.

I was at the launch last Wednesday night. Was a fun event, a short factory tour and then the introduction of the new machine. Very few changes in the threshing system of the combine itself. The big changes are the cab itself. Lots of buttons to push! There are a lot of settings and options now. The only lever in the cab is the hydro control. All shifting is push button. Cab visibility is excellent. I liked the new ladder they put on them, bout dang time for that. The "Gleaner" and model number on the side is either pushed out of the sheet metal or it is a glued on logo giving it a bit of a 3D effect, nothing to do the performance of the combine but it was a nice touch for looks.

They also showed us the new corn head and draper head. I really like that corn head. One company guy said there were in 260bu acre corn in Indiana, 7 miles and hour and 0 head loss.......

Kevin Bien said they were about 5% cheaper than John Deere.

The sheet metal is painted and has been since the late 90s.

There was a good crowd of customers there also. While touring the amazing paint facility Mavis Widlund turned to me and asked "Why don't they just leave them galvanized and drop a hundred grand off of the price?". In my opinion she had a great point! lol

Edited by JimIA - 21 Nov 2015 at 8:38am

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JimIA wrote:

While touring the amazing paint facility Mavis Widlund turned to me and asked "Why don't they just leave them galvanized and drop a hundred grand off of the price?". In my opinion she had a great point! lol

I don't know for sure, but my guess would be, it is still cheaper to paint, then to work with the galvanized steel. The panels on a combine, are no longer stamped out, everything is cut out with a laser. If you try cutting galvanized steel with a laser, toxic fumes are generated, takes very expensive equipment to keep it out of the air, not to mention potential liability issues. The paint booth was probably needed for the hay equipment, and windrowers anyway, adding the combines, just more items to spread the cost around on. Plus I seriously doubt, that using galvanized would shave hundred grand off the price anyway.

I have a buddy that works at the CNH factory in Grand Island. A couple years ago, CNH was putting in six new presses, each press, was $10,000,000. Takes a lot to get a ROI on that, and that was just six pieces of equipment. The machine that molds the top for the combine cab, is so expensive, that the company can only justify one for all combine production. For that reason, all the combine cab tops, come out of the combine factory in Belgium.

I think all brands price by what the farmer will pay, has nothing to do with what it costs to build, just my opinion.

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Ron Eggen wrote:

The S98 we saw the day before introduction was supposed to list for around $450,000 and with both heads could top a cool 1 million. Takes a lot of 250 bushel per acre corn to pay for one.

That means each head costs $275,000.00. Doubt it.

Are you trying to say its a "Meaner Gleaner"? LOL!

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