The S9's are out!
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Topic: The S9's are out!
Posted By: CrestonM
Subject: The S9's are out!
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 8:15pm
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Go to www.gleanercombines.com They look a lot "meaner" that the S8's!
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Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 8:46pm
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Posted By: Cernunnos
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 9:00pm
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Looks straight out of the next Transformers movie. Very impressive ------------- 1951 CA, 1952 CA with cultivator, 20 Series 8' disc harrow, 2 bottom pick-up plow, forage blower, 2-row rear mounted drill corn planter, Allcrop grain drill, No. 80T sickle mower, MN No. 130 barge box |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 6:13pm
| glad it didnt get red and gray paint |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 9:25pm
| I don't understand why they show all the advantages of the amazing Gleaner transverse rotor combines and how they are far superior to Axial-flow machines, yet AGCO also manufactures MF axials???? |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 12:59am
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An amazing machine but something I won't ever own.
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Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 7:35am
| is the sheet metal galvanized, or just painted? |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 8:04am
to please the 15 buyers in north america that like massey and want more moving parts and belts
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CrestonM wrote:Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 4:01pm
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I suspect there are more then 15 MF buyers, at least 25! lol I wonder how Gleaners compare to JD and CIH on price. If sold by the pound they should be cheaper as they are as much as 25% lighter then competing brands. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 4:08pm
| they say about 16,000 lbs lighter than jd? whew! that's a lot! and a lot less compaction! wonder if they'll paint all the mf's with that flag! that might be a great selling point, some would buy one just for that! |
Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 6:00pm
Have you looked at a new Massey? Very few moving parts, would definitely be considered for a second choice.
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Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 6:01pm
The cost of a combine, isn't in the materials, it's in the engineering.
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Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 6:36pm
Plus the cost of tooling and the cost of purchased materials. If the tooling can be spread over a larger number of units, it can be cheaper. And you often get a price break if you buy in higher quantities. ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 10:34pm
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I agree with the above comments but still, steel cost's money and it takes time to put it together, paint and ship. The bigger, heaver machine, the more cost (or less profit margin). I'm sure JD and CIH have their costs down because they have built the same basic model for several years and they sell a lot of them. I'm still wondering what the different brands cost. Another question, Are the Massey's made in Hesston or Canada? ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 11:17pm
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Massey and Gleaners are made in the same factory. And the 5 challengers they build a year LOL!!!! Agco sell a lot more Gleaners then Masseys. And Gleaners are no cheaper then a JD or CIH. ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2015 at 6:28am
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If you pay for engineering all it should cost is a couple boxes of bananas on products. Gleaners are fairly well thought out but working on a grain auger that a monkey could do better. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2015 at 8:37am
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I was at the launch last Wednesday night. Was a fun event, a short factory tour and then the introduction of the new machine. Very few changes in the threshing system of the combine itself. The big changes are the cab itself. Lots of buttons to push! There are a lot of settings and options now. The only lever in the cab is the hydro control. All shifting is push button. Cab visibility is excellent. I liked the new ladder they put on them, bout dang time for that. The "Gleaner" and model number on the side is either pushed out of the sheet metal or it is a glued on logo giving it a bit of a 3D effect, nothing to do the performance of the combine but it was a nice touch for looks. They also showed us the new corn head and draper head. I really like that corn head. One company guy said there were in 260bu acre corn in Indiana, 7 miles and hour and 0 head loss....... Kevin Bien said they were about 5% cheaper than John Deere. The sheet metal is painted and has been since the late 90s. There was a good crowd of customers there also. While touring the amazing paint facility Mavis Widlund turned to me and asked "Why don't they just leave them galvanized and drop a hundred grand off of the price?". In my opinion she had a great point! lol ------------- An open eye is much more observant than an open mouth |
Posted By: skateboarder68
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2015 at 9:37am
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Thanks Jim! I'll bet Kevin Bien had a giddy in his step! ------------- Orange & Silver still earnin their keep on the farm: R62, Series IV D17 nf, 185, 6080, 6080 fwa, 220, 1968 D21, 7045, DT240. |
Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2015 at 2:04pm
I don't know for sure, but my guess would be, it is still cheaper to paint, then to work with the galvanized steel. The panels on a combine, are no longer stamped out, everything is cut out with a laser. If you try cutting galvanized steel with a laser, toxic fumes are generated, takes very expensive equipment to keep it out of the air, not to mention potential liability issues. The paint booth was probably needed for the hay equipment, and windrowers anyway, adding the combines, just more items to spread the cost around on. Plus I seriously doubt, that using galvanized would shave hundred grand off the price anyway. I have a buddy that works at the CNH factory in Grand Island. A couple years ago, CNH was putting in six new presses, each press, was $10,000,000. Takes a lot to get a ROI on that, and that was just six pieces of equipment. The machine that molds the top for the combine cab, is so expensive, that the company can only justify one for all combine production. For that reason, all the combine cab tops, come out of the combine factory in Belgium. |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2015 at 2:52am
Corvettes weigh less than a F150 though.... :) ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2015 at 8:26am
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I think all brands price by what the farmer will pay, has nothing to do with what it costs to build, just my opinion. ------------- 1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner) |
Posted By: Ron Eggen
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2015 at 5:54pm
| The S98 we saw the day before introduction was supposed to list for around $450,000 and with both heads could top a cool 1 million. Takes a lot of 250 bushel per acre corn to pay for one. |
Posted By: indiana2door
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2015 at 10:19pm
That means each head costs $275,000.00. Doubt it. |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2015 at 11:01pm
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Seems closer to $450,000 with at least one header. Has anyone heard prices of the competition? I answered my own question. Googled a 2016 JD S690, list price is $492,901! That is a lot of money. If the Gleaner is 5% cheaper it is still $468,255. Unbelievable! ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 6:38am
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Are you trying to say its a "Meaner Gleaner"? LOL! ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |