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Snap Coupler Drawbar off of a B?? |
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Orange Blood
Orange Level Joined: 29 Nov 2010 Location: ColoradoSprings Points: 4053 |
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Posted: 23 Feb 2012 at 8:05am |
How hard is it to find one of these, I am looking at and probably already bought a nice wide front B, then noticed in the pictures it doesn't have the snap coupler drawbar, just the snap coupler bell. I have heard these might be hard to find?
Your thoughts?
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Dale H. ECIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Paris, Il Points: 690 |
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Sorry but you will not find one unless you make one, AC did not make a snap coupler draw bar for the B.
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22810 |
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Might be real hard to find since Allis didn't make one that I am aware of. To use the drawbar, you remove the SC bell and turn the drawbar around.
I don't know why you couldn't get a CA SC drawbarand make it work. You might have to extend it and make a clamp to hold it in place. |
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CTuckerNWIL
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Guess I spent too much time typing
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Orange Blood
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So what I have/ or am about to have is complete then?
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BILLP-SE-MI
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: SE Michigan Points: 666 |
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It sure looks like all the Snap Coupler parts are all there Orange Blood, some guys have all the luck.
Nice find, Have a good one. BILL P Edited by BILLP-SE-MI - 23 Feb 2012 at 8:42am |
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Bob D. (La)
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Louisiana Points: 25529 |
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I also believe you have the full setup. I'm sure someone who positively knos will chime in after seeing this post. Good find. Don't let it get away.
PS: I believe Michael Crowe has collected all the parts now including a late model B that he is fixing to set up.
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Rfdeere
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Idaville, IN Points: 3282 |
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I see the snap coupler, the release chain, both lift latches, as long as the release lever and mount are there that should be complete. Good find !
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Orange Blood
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Just another pic. So what do you all think this should be worth? Stuck engine. I am curious if I am about to overpay? According to the serial number it is a early 1953 model. It has a distributor, but the serial number puts it ahead of the distributor break in Norms book, was that an option? Also it does look like the SC release and bracket are missing. :-( Oh well, guess I am not that lucky? :-) Edited by Orange Blood - 23 Feb 2012 at 10:08am |
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Matt MN
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Silver lake MN Points: 1491 |
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it looks like it has all the correct parts.
here is one that Micheal Crowe just got done assembling. http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45862&KW=&PID=355472&title=1955-b-snap-coupler#355472 |
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dpower
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Madison Ne Points: 1575 |
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IT sure looks complete to me even has the snap coupler release on the right foot rest. TIn work looks straight too, good buy. Ive never seen one in person before. |
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Orange Blood
Orange Level Joined: 29 Nov 2010 Location: ColoradoSprings Points: 4053 |
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Oh I do see it, I must be creme blind!!! Awesome. Thanks for making my day
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BrettPhillips
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Strasburg, VA Points: 808 |
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I see the braces that go from the foot bar down to the drawbar, but what about the flat bar diagonals that go from the final drive up to the rockshaft bearings? They shouldn't be hard to make, but might be a bargaining point. The tractor itself looks to be pretty decent.
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22810 |
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Probably should knock off some for the improper seat frame and no cushion.
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Eldon (WA)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Points: 7765 |
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Is that the one outa Kansas? Seems it was for sale way to long....
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Orange Blood
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Eldon (WA)
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I alomost posted a link to that one but figured it was long gone and the posting was never deleted.....but then again a lot of people see a B for sale and don't even take a look at the ad.....
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Orange Blood
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Actually I thought it was long gone too, then the other day he called me and asked me about "an older Allis with Allis Chalmers cast into the radiator" that peaked my interest, sent me some photos, turned out to be the U, I posted about a few days ago, and we ended up buying both of them. He said he hadn't sold the B yet, so we worked out a deal on both of them, now I just have to pick them and my other two items up. At least they are all in a line from Wichita to Oklahoma City.
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Gary(MO)
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There is another snap coupler B almost together in eastern missouri. It has all the correct parts if I ever get them on. Have a good day. Gary
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ewbs79
Silver Level Joined: 17 Mar 2011 Location: trenton,mo Points: 81 |
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Can ones self take snap coupler parts from a wd or such and assemble on the b wish I had one to look over close by hoping to make it down to harrisonville in a couple weeks and see one I hope lol I've got grandpas old b running thought I was gonna get to ride it the other day when the water pump came apart but what can a guy expect it sat for 15 years in the barn and so far only got 150 in it to get it running id really like to find a plow and build a three point for it
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Orange Blood
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The WD and WD45 lifts are completely different than this setup, I suppose one could make one work, but it would be a lot of fabricating.
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Tracy Martin TN
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10564 |
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The hardest part of making the Snap Coupler B are these : The SC bell hanger, the drawbar pivots, and the lift arms.There are several other parts,but these are the most time consuming. It can be done, but to reproduce them like originals will cost money. HTH Tracy Martin
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Orange Blood
Orange Level Joined: 29 Nov 2010 Location: ColoradoSprings Points: 4053 |
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I know you all can't tell me exactly, but how hard is a complete Snap coupler B to find?
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GlenninPA
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ashley, PA Points: 5054 |
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If you know where to look, it is not impossible.
It is just that they are not out there behind every tree in the fencerow. Seems there has been quite a few show up recently in the Carolinas.... |
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