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    Posted: 20 Mar 2018 at 9:20pm
I have a ca allis with a front mounted 7 foot sickle bar mower.can this mower be installed on a wd-45?connot find any model or any other numbers on the mower.any help would be appreciated.....thx
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A #5 could only be mounted on a WD45 with homemade adapters. If you have an 80S WD45 mounting brackets can be had.  Is it a pitman stick mower (#5) or "Twin-Wheel" drive (80S) ?
If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
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We had a belly mount on a WD, had a double vbelt drive down from PTO gear box.
I clipped a lot of pasture ground, ours and neighbors, one of which I own now.
 
I don't recall the #.


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#80 and 82 mowers were available as mid mount mowers.  You would need the correct side mount bracket(a casting) Not sure if #80 bracket will fit on #82 mower, or vice versa...Wink
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From the headstock out they are the same but so are the rear mount and trailer mounted mowers. So without all the WD specific mount parts the answer is NO.
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A picture is worth a thousand words.....I'm sure someone here could identify the model of the mower if they had a picture.

A better answer could then be given.

I'm sure it could be mounted somehow.....my Dad mounted a John Deere horse drawn mower under his B back in the late 40s with a little help from a welder friend of his.  
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If I recall correctly there was not a side mounted mower for the WD.  However, there was a very good side mounted mower for the WC.  Since the frames are basically the same - in fact a WD cultivator will fit a WC - it is possible you had a WC mower with some "jury rigging".
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Bill,

I think the #5 "Side Mount" mower was specifically built for the CA tractor and that may be what J.W. has. That mower could also be fit to the B and C tractors with available adapters.

I believe the 80S and later, the 82S Side Mount mowers came out a couple of years after the D-17 was introduced but attachment parts were available to put them on the WD and WD-45 tractors. These mowers were of the "Twin-Wheel" design originally introduced with the #7 Mower.

Without a picture or detailed description, we don't know which mower J.W. has
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80S and 82S mowers are totally different.I've seen brackets for 82S mowers for everything
from a WD to a 180,never saw brackets for a CA but they might have been available.They are a load for a D10-12 so they'd be a load for a CA too.
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The 80S and 82S are very different from one another but share the Twin-Wheel design.

In my opinion, the 82S is a much more refined mower and has a much less complicated mounting system than the 80S.

The 80S and 82S are totally different from the #5 which still uses a pitman arm system.

The 80S was available with attaching brackets for all the D series from the D-10 to the D-17 as well as the WD/WD45 tractors. 

The 82S was available with attaching brackets for all the D series from the D-10 to the D-19, the WD/WD45s and some of the 100 series tractors.

Neither the 80S nor 82S is mentioned in any literature I have as being mountable on a CA but because of the CAs similarity to the D10 and D12, I would guess it might fit without too much of a problem.



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They are both twin wheel drive but the cutter assembly units will not interchange.Also there are several different styles of the twin wheel drive set up,some parts interchange some won't.
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And........ some parts will interchange with a little tweaking.
My "82S" has a gear box from a #7.
Apparently, my mower started its life as an early
82S with the light weight "inner shoe" and the 5/8" thick bar.
I found some newer 82S parts and it now has the HD inner shoe and a 3/4" bar.
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Originally posted by Bill Long Bill Long wrote:

If I recall correctly there was not a side mounted mower for the WD.  However, there was a very good side mounted mower for the WC.  Since the frames are basically the same - in fact a WD cultivator will fit a WC - it is possible you had a WC mower with some "jury rigging".
Good Luck!
Bill Long
Bill, you are right!  It was a WC mower and the way I remember it went without a hitch, no pun intended.  Well maybe a little.




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the mower I have on yhe ca is a pitman drive driven off a double v belt pulley.the drawbar has been removed by removing the  big pin under the tractor.had to to clear the torque tube..don't know how to put pictures on the computer,i am very luckey to even get it lit up.....
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Here is a picture of an 82S on my WD45.


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Originally posted by j.w.freck j.w.freck wrote:

the mower I have on yhe ca is a pitman drive driven off a double v belt pulley.the drawbar has been removed by removing the  big pin under the tractor.had to to clear the torque tube..don't know how to put pictures on the computer,i am very luckey to even get it lit up.....

It would appear that you have a #5 mower.
There was attaching hardware available to mount that mower
on the B, C and CA but I can find nothing that shows it was intended
for use on the WC or WD.
Like Bill said, there was a WC mower but it looks nothing like the #5.
If it were me, I might try to fabricate some mounts.
But.......I believe the #5 is a fairly popular mower for the B, C and CA guys
so you might be better off trying to trade it for an 80S or 82S mower or
selling it and buying one of those.
The 82S is the better of those two.
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Originally posted by Brian G.  NY Brian G. NY wrote:

Bill,

I think the #5 "Side Mount" mower was specifically built for the CA tractor and that may be what J.W. has. That mower could also be fit to the B and C tractors with available adapters.

I believe the 80S and later, the 82S Side Mount mowers came out a couple of years after the D-17 was introduced but attachment parts were available to put them on the WD and WD-45 tractors. These mowers were of the "Twin-Wheel" design originally introduced with the #7 Mower.

Without a picture or detailed description, we don't know which mower J.W. has

Hey Brian,  You are correct!  After reading your post I went to Pop's 1960 AC Price Book - one of my prized possessions - and after researching I found that there were attaching parts for a WD, WD-45, D-10, and D-12 were made for the 80-S mower. (they did not make the 82S till later)
Hey Check the 1960 Prices - Mower Base 80-S $312.20 and the attaching parts $110.00 for a WD, WD-45, D-10, and D-12.  You had to add the cutter bar $92.70 - $74.40.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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"Hey Check the 1960 Prices - Mower Base 80-S $312.20 and the attaching parts $110.00 for a WD, WD-45, D-10, and D-12.  You had to add the cutter bar $92.70 - $74.40.
Good Luck!
Bill Long  "

 

Thanks Bill,

Imagine what that stuff would cost at todays prices!! 










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I think New Holland 451 sickle bar mowers are over $5,000.
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