This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Round bale tractor

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
chuck (WI) View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level
Avatar

Joined: 07 Feb 2010
Location: wisconsin
Points: 200
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chuck (WI) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Round bale tractor
    Posted: 08 Nov 2021 at 7:00pm
I bought a fairly new, new holland roll belt 460 and the biggest tractor I own is a 7000 and it seems it takes all it has to run it without the crop cutter, will a 7040 handle it, or what size should I be shopping for, would like to stick to the 7000 series because there are plenty around my area for sale.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
victoryallis View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 15 Apr 2010
Location: Ludington mi
Points: 2878
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote victoryallis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2021 at 8:43pm
Baling sorghum Friday with a 450 with crop cutter my 8030 was WORKING.   My 8030 isn’t as fresh as once was and the sorghum was damp. 
8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
Back to Top
KJCHRIS View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 21 Dec 2015
Location: WC Iowa
Points: 948
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KJCHRIS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 12:04am
Chuck, for those of us not familiar, what size bale does a NH 460 baler make and what forage are you baling? 
We ran 2 VerMeer 605 series balers behind; Case 1175 (125hp), Allis 180 (70 hp) & 200 (115 hp) for over 25 yrs , on alfalfa / orchard grass mix. Made 60 - 100 acre x 3 cuttings of Hill land in west central Iowa. Used same tractors to windrow, rake, bale, & haul in and to feed in winter.
AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B,
Back to Top
shameless dude View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 10 Apr 2017
Location: east NE
Points: 13607
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote shameless dude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 1:39am
i always used my 7010 on my big round baler, handled fine, but i didn't have a crop cutter i don't think. really never heard of a crop cutter on a baler...what do they look like?  
Back to Top
victoryallis View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 15 Apr 2010
Location: Ludington mi
Points: 2878
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote victoryallis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 5:54am
Crop cutter is a set of knives that can be extended from the floor of the baler to cut what your baling into smaller pieces.  

Edited by victoryallis - 09 Nov 2021 at 5:54am
8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
Back to Top
Tbone95 View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 31 Aug 2012
Location: Michigan
Points: 11965
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tbone95 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 6:38am
I would think a 7040 as long as it's in good condition would run most any round  baler.  We have a 7045 and have 2 balers, a 4x5 and a 5x6 and have made "wet" 4x5's, no problem.  Wouldn't put one on a large square baler, but seems a round would be just fine.
Back to Top
Tbone95 View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 31 Aug 2012
Location: Michigan
Points: 11965
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tbone95 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 6:40am
chuck, how will you be feeding the hay, and to what?  You may not want to use the crop cutter.  I use a feeder wagon, bought some cut hay, and the cows wasted a LOT of it, had a snow drift looking berm of hay all the way around the wagon where they would pull it out and slobber.  
Back to Top
victoryallis View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 15 Apr 2010
Location: Ludington mi
Points: 2878
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote victoryallis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 3:52pm
Crop cutter helps to prevent sorting with poor forages.
8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
Back to Top
allisbred View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 28 Mar 2015
Location: Hanover Pa
Points: 1011
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote allisbred Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 4:03pm
I would like to know if you have any trouble making a good round bale in dry hay with the cutter? Seems the Vermeer balers I have used love to role the long stems and the bales store better outside without a cover? That is one reason I square bale the later cuttings. I use a 185 most of the time with a 4x5 wet or dry. I kind of feel that it’s hard on the Baler to run a lot of extra Hp.

Edited by allisbred - 09 Nov 2021 at 4:04pm
Back to Top
matador View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 10 Nov 2014
Location: Wyoming
Points: 1727
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote matador Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 5:08pm
I've pulled a 530 Deere (without a crop cutter) behind our 7040 once to bale some corn stalks. Plenty of tractor for that. I've never run any other round baler, but our 7040 wasn't working hard with that one
Tractors: Allis WD (x2), Allis 7040, Oliver 1800A Diesel, Case 830 Caseomatic, White 2-105, Massey 1105 | Plus a Gleaner F2, 30' A-C 1300 Cultivator, Flightline bale elevator
Back to Top
ToddnwIl View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 07 May 2013
Location: Illinois
Points: 298
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ToddnwIl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 8:18pm
I pull a vermeer 605m cornstalk special with an agco allis 9535. It's 135 horsepower. Their are days I wish I had a little more under the hood. I sure would want a power shift if I was baler tractor shopping!
Back to Top
darrel in ND View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 22 Nov 2009
Location: Hebron, ND
Points: 8688
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darrel in ND Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 2021 at 1:05pm
My one ninety XT handles our RB56 Challenger baler quite well. XT is turned up above stock HP some (probably in the neighborhood of 120HP)
No crop cutter on it, but it keeps the XT smoking! Lol!
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.063 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum