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    Posted: 16 Sep 2021 at 6:46pm
Talked with a friend of mine that took possession of 2- 2 year old  N/H combines that said their "road" speed is 25 MPH ShockedShocked !! Is this common for all class 7 and above machines for road travel ??EmbarrassedEmbarrassed
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bet you could google it.
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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

bet you could google it.
 
So you don't own/operate one ??WinkWink
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I think my 'new" R62 goes over 20....that was January when I drove it home so memory ain't there.
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Thank you !!
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drove an N5 about 18 miles one day, it went about 35 MPH. was clocked by the vehicle following me. didn't bounce all over like some do at 15-18 MPH. one of my "G" combines would do about 20, and the other did about 15, same tranny in both. the one that was the slowest was squirely on the road. 
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Most Gleaner rotaries have been running 22 to 25 since the N series. Anything with a 30.5 32 tire or bigger have been at least.
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It’s a good thing I don’t have to road my E anywhere because it’s snail slow on the road. It might be 10 mph...
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At 25 mph, better have all good linkage on steering. Any thing that steers by rear axel can be squirely on the road.                       MACK
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Our S78 and S97 do 23 mph plus. Hammer down to the next field!
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My L2 rolls down the road 23 mph if you brave enough
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Yes. Probably best to road drive any newer rotor combine with your hand/fingers on their throttle/engine rpm speed buttons(1,2,3 rpm settings)to quickly reduce their top-end speeds, if situations demand it. IMO-Engine speed reductions usually make for safer/gentler drivetrain maneuvering than pulling back on transmission hydro lever at high idle.
The newer Gleaner rotor combines(maybe other brands too?) have more rear steer axle weight than the older conventional combines. So rotor’s additional weight distribution probably allows them better steer control for higher road speeds? Try roading an older conventional gleaner with an attached cornhead, in high gear. Fifteen mph & things could get interesting because it may not have had enough rear axle steer tire weight. On the other hand, the older 2wd conventionals transverse soft soils if equipped with wider float tires because more of their weight is concentrated on their drive axle. The larger rotor gleaner’s rear wheel assist is much needed in soft soils because of their increased base machine weights too.
The L2 weighs 14,700lbs.
An N6 weighs 18,820lbs.
An R52 weighs 20,840lbs
An R75 weighs 28,500lbs.
An A85 weighs 37,700lbs.
An S77 weighs 29,740lbs.
An S98 weighs 33,920lbs.
Think these weights are high? Some competitor brand combines can easily add upward of 10,000+ lbs to the Gleaner weights!

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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

drove an N5 about 18 miles one day, it went about 35 MPH. was clocked by the vehicle following me. didn't bounce all over like some do at 15-18 MPH. one of my "G" combines would do about 20, and the other did about 15, same tranny in both. the one that was the slowest was squirely on the road. 
Not sure if  you're crazy, full of BS, or actually stupid.  Sorry.
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Maybe 35 Kilometers per hour, which does calculate to 21.75 miles per hour  which is more like it??  on a dual read speedometer maybe the driver was cornfused ??
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

Maybe 35 Kilometers per hour, which does calculate to 21.75 miles per hour  which is more like it??  on a dual read speedometer maybe the driver was cornfused ??
Much more likely, and a plausible explanation.
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

drove an N5 about 18 miles one day, it went about 35 MPH. was clocked by the vehicle following me. didn't bounce all over like some do at 15-18 MPH. one of my "G" combines would do about 20, and the other did about 15, same tranny in both. the one that was the slowest was squirely on the road. 

I believe you Wink I might of had a MH up to that speed. Broke the hydraulic drive belts and the hydro free wheeled and away I went down the hill. Thank fully It did not tip over when the up hill steering brake garbed. Just bounced a few more times and slowed as I contoured it into the hill.

We moved as many as 4 MH2's down the road. The oldest most hours machine first to set the pace. The hydro's get slower the more warn they are.  They all did a bit over 20 mph. Moved 2 and 3, 50 miles or so at a time, a lot of that on the 4 lane California 101 highway. Then they added a JD 6622, that thing would not do 15 mph.

Over the years drove 6 different MH2's. One was always a little more squirrely going down the road than the rest. Several wanted to bounce the back axle more as they aged. We played with things never got like new. Also tried to keep water in the rear tires. But with repairs and all did run down the road with only one watered sometimes, it mattered.  
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

drove an N5 about 18 miles one day, it went about 35 MPH. was clocked by the vehicle following me. didn't bounce all over like some do at 15-18 MPH. one of my "G" combines would do about 20, and the other did about 15, same tranny in both. the one that was the slowest was squirely on the road. 
 
WOW Shameless SmileSmile !!  The "quickest" machine that I drove down the road was a neighbors Case Diesel 630 with Triple Range, 28 MPH Wink !! 
Was your N5 "naked" or did it have a header on it SmileBig smile ??
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We all know ole Shamers sometimes "exaggerates" a little, now and then...Wink

Here he is balin hay!

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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

We all know ole Shamers sometimes "exaggerates" a little, now and then...Wink

Here he is balin hay!



Well, that would certainly explain a few things!
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Years ago, I bought a N6 at a consignment action and neighbor bought a 1660 CIh.  We picked up the same day and drove home about 20 miles.  He had about a 10-15 minute start on me.  I caught up to him about 10 miles down the road and I was not maxing out my speed.  He was.  We still chuckle about that day over a beer now and then.  1st and only time he was passed in a combine by another combine.  
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Re: the baling vid

Wow!

Don't try that at home!

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My L3 says it does 27 mph, but the app on my phone says 23.

I’ve ran Deere 7720 and 8820 for a friend and they’re 12-14 mph.
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Never thought I'd have to worry about speed rating of ag tires, and to have them balanced when mounted!LOL
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L-3's don't do 27 mph. Speedometer needs to be calibrated.
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Not a combine, but the fastest ag unit we ever had was a Ford 6000 with the POS (er, SOS, dang I always screw that up) transmission.  Been too long to remember but seems the tach/ speedo said somewhere around 28 mph?  You DIDN'T want to actually go full speed, the rear tires would start rocking sideways, steering would get real squirrely, knuckles would start getting really white.  Slow down, live longer.  

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The mighty Ford 6000 Commander with the 10-speed SOJ (select-a-jerk) transmission  !!!!
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

The mighty Ford 6000 Commander with the 10-speed SOJ (select-a-jerk) transmission  !!!!
That would be the one!LOL
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Actually the Silver King highway mowers had a stock speed of a whopping 45 MPH!  IIRR, that is the fastest of any stock tractor.  I had a MF Turf 20, that had a top end of about 35MPH, that was just plain scary at speed, had bad tie rod ends, so I hadda put both feet against the tie rod ends near the console, to control the shaking at top speed!  But I was younger, then!Wink
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An M-M UDLX would do 40...
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