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Coke-in-MN 
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Posted: 25 Oct 2023 at 1:04pm |
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 8:55am |
but... there are Seat Belt laws in all States ????
ROCKFORD, Ill. (WTVO) — Riding in the bed of a pickup truck may be a liberating feeling, but is it legal in Illinois? While there are no laws that specifically prohibit passengers from riding in the cargo area, the Illinois Vehicle Code requires that all passengers wear seatbelts, which means the answer is: no, you can’t. The Vehicle Code (625 ILCS 5/) clearly states that “each driver and passenger of a motor vehicle operated on a street or highway in this State shall wear a properly adjusted and fastened seat safety belt.” makes you wonder about a motorcycle  The Child Passenger Safety Act requires that all children under the age of 16 be secured by a seat belt or child safety seat. Illinois also prohibits individuals from riding in a vehicle, such as a trailer, semitrailer, or wagon, which is being towed on a public highway.
Edited by steve(ill) - 26 Oct 2023 at 8:56am
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JoeM(GA)
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Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 10:05am |
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guess they'd not approve of my brother and I laying down on the roof of the farm truck with our hands out in front of us playing like were were superman all the way back from town!
Edited by JoeM(GA) - 26 Oct 2023 at 12:13pm
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 10:45am |
re: The Vehicle Code (625 ILCS 5/) clearly
states that “each driver and passenger of a motor vehicle operated on a
street or highway in this State shall wear a properly adjusted and
fastened seat safety belt.”
'passenger' would be someone IN the cab or passenger compartment... I consider everything IN the pickup bed to be CARGO....
In Ontario, only have to wear belts IF OEM put them there. Decade+ ago 13-14 people in a minivan that crashed, as only 9 belts, cops could only charge for not wearing them, not all 14.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 1:00pm |
'passenger' would be someone IN the cab or passenger compartment... I consider everything IN the pickup bed to be CARGO..
Nope... In a vehicle any HUMAN is either the Driver or a Passenger... You cant be CARGO ... unless maybe your DEAD..
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Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 3:14pm |
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Well Chit, there goes my day. Heading down to the Station to turn myself in. Multiple violations.....
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 7:27pm |
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Wah thinking of Navy Days when on base they had the cattle cars , semi trailer with bench seats in it and used for transport from fleet landing to places on base .
But that was before the seat belt laws - as many time trailer would be full and nany standing also .
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Clay
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Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 9:51pm |
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Subaru Brat had seats in the back. Perfectly legal.
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Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 5:03am |
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Still pretty common practice around here. Hay rack rides, parade floats, field to field, homecoming shuttles, etc. all still practiced routinely.
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Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 6:23am |
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Any vehicle NOT originally equipped with seat belts but has seating CANNOT be Forced to install them. Cannot impose laws imposing modifications to pre law mechanisms. US Mil Vehicles STILL have Prison Bench style Cattle Car picket Seating, troops Still carried NO belts.
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Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 6:30am |
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Too lazy and really don’t care enough to look, but I know as of ……a while ………ago, it was still legal to ride in the back of a pickup in Michigan. I think it was over 16 years old, like no interstates, maybe 45 mph? I remember as kids, our whole little league team would go 10-15 miles to a game in a couple of pickups!
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Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 6:13pm |
Well shouldn't we all start screaming about seat belts in school busses?? I personally, as a Firefighter, have seat belts KILL people. I'm with the motorcycle guys, I won't wear one. It is dangerous.
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Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 11:55pm |
Yes, this is true, Clay- and it is an interesting story in and of itself-
The Subaru BRAT was sold with those seats installed for a very specific reason-
At that time, there was a US trade prohibition on pickup trucks being brought INTO the USA... in order for a foriegn vehicle to be imported, it HAD to be a PASSENGER vehicle, not a pickup. Henceforth, Subaru took their little station-wagon based pickup, and made two plastic seats with seat belts... now it's a 4-seat passenger vehicle.
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Posted: 28 Oct 2023 at 7:07am |
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I always laugh about this trip. My brother had a 1970 Ford truck when he was 16 years old.
We took a road trip in that truck from Colorado to Arkansas.
A17 year old a 16,a14, a12, and me at 8 years old.
We three young’ens took turns riding in the back. We got stopped for speeding somewhere in KS. Ole patrols just shook his head and said slow that rig down.
We hit rain a time or two and all crammed up front.
That was near 50 years ago.
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Posted: 28 Oct 2023 at 8:35am |
 Thad in AR. wrote:
I always laugh about this trip. My brother had a 1970 Ford truck when he was 16 years old.
We took a road trip in that truck from Colorado to Arkansas.
A17 year old a 16,a14, a12, and me at 8 years old.
We three young’ens took turns riding in the back. We got stopped for speeding somewhere in KS. Ole patrols just shook his head and said slow that rig down.
We hit rain a time or two and all crammed up front.
That was near 50 years ago. |
Yeah Thad,,,,them was to Good Ole Days when we was full of vim and vinegar and thought we were gonna live forever and the world was never gonna end,,,,Every one remembers carrying your rifles on them back window racks for all to ogle and see,,,,Chit,,,if there was an open slot we even would hang them Daisy Red Riders on there for good measure,,,,  I used to hate election times cause them dudes would show up at the house with a pickup load of whooping and hollaring men standing in the bed of an old trk with sideboards being carried to the voting booths by way of the local bar just down the street,,,,,I hated them AH's cause my dad being an alcoholic,,,if he took one drink he'd be lost to us for at least a week,,,,,  ,,don't guess the law applied to them politicos carrying all them men around town,,,,,
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Posted: 28 Oct 2023 at 10:32am |
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Detassling corn in the late 70s, early 80s this is how we were hauled to the field. Tailgate down 10 or 12 of us sitting on sides and 3 or 4 on the Tailgate. 60 mph down country roads. Must of had a bunch of guardian angels watching.
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Posted: 28 Oct 2023 at 11:07am |
Used to have scores of kids detasseling corn in those fields west of Rt. 4 across from White Oaks mall and southward of Wabash before all that commercial buildup took place there now. From there all the way to Koke Mill Road was fields with nothing except Leath Furniture out that way prior to 1983 and into 1984.
Literally hundreds of kids transported by farm truck, pickup truck, hay wagons behind tractors, and parents etc. to get there.
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 28 Oct 2023 at 7:47pm |
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I left Arkansas and went to Illinois and Iowa in the 80’s to de-tassel corn. I bought my first Allis Chalmers with de-tassel money.
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Posted: 29 Oct 2023 at 8:00pm |
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the best part of the whole day is riding back on top of a load of hay
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Posted: 29 Oct 2023 at 11:23pm |
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I believe it's now illegal in about every state, but if your state does allow it, check with the local towns and cities, they may have rules on it there. sure was handy for parents and farmers to let the kids/grown-ups ride in the back when there wasn't room in the cab for them. bean walkers/haying help/misc helpers...that's why they is made and called pickups...made to haul things and/or peoples/animals!
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