Replacing rear tires

Several years ago my dad and I replaced both rear tires and tubes on his JD 4440. Got it finished and went back to the house for the night with a job well done. Next day went to the barn and the tractor was leaning to the right. It wasn't nearly as much fun to take the tire back off and patch a brand new tube. Lots of words to be said about that one.
A year or two later we did the tires on his 4430, they had been on the tractor for more than 20 years if I'm not mistaken. The steel belts were showing in places. It was July 4, a hot, humid, rainy day, with no air moving through the barn. I ran his slide hammer bead breaker for half the morning trying to get the first bead on the first tire started. It made for a really fun day. I can't wait to see what the tires on my WD 45 have in store for me. But I'm thinking about saving up to have it done now. Especially after remembering the stories I just told.
Later,
Brad

Driverdan wrote: Clever idea with Jack and chains to break bead!! However I do tire while still mounted on tractor, so may not work for me. I agree with WFOwner that it's not fun to pinch tube and redo all work to fix (been there, done that) but I disagree about bead breaking... that definitely is the worst part.. Dan

agree with ya, once the bead was broke the tires came off easy.  I took my tire, tube and wheel to my dads garage to have them put it on.  they had to inflate and deflate it 4-5 times and put lots of rim guard on to get the tire to seat right, it didn't want to center the rim on the tire?  glad I took it to him...lol

the last tire that was a @#$# to get off the rim, I used the jack and chain method to get a gap started at the bead, then used an air chisel to get the tire uncorroded (not sure that's a word) from the wheel.  don't think the jack and chain method would work for ya, gonna be hard to hold all that stuff in place.

also, if the hole for your valve stem is rusted 3 inches round, duct tape ain't gonna fix it!!  the d14 I bought was like that.  it also had a 11/12.? x28 tube in a 13.?x26 tire? 

The best way to keep from pinching a tube.........
Put one side of the tire on the rim
Insert and arrange the tube in the tire and get the valve stem in place.
Now put SOME air into the tube.  Enough to make it the same size as the tire.
Take the valve stem out and let the air out.  Put the valve stem back in.  Now put just a LITTLE air in the tube.  Enough to inflate it about half way.  This will help to keep the inner tube away and keep you from poking holes in it, or pinching it.
Now put the other side of the tire on the rim (being careful of course).
Just inflate to the correct pressure.
VERY simple and easy.
Just takes a little practice......

I need to charge more. I charge 60 an hour from the time I show up till I'm done. I charge minimum one hour regardless if I'm there for only half hour. I do not charge milage either.

I'm betting the diesel fuel helped with the removal of the old tire as rubber gets softened with diesel. Probably something you don't want to use on a new tire though.

found this way on you tube and tried it this morning, worked great!!!  tire was deflated,  put 4x4 on each end of the tire close to the rim.  I used a chunk of steal I had to put over the 4x4's, but a 4x4 or bigger would probly work.  then rap a chain through the rim and over the jack.  pump up the jack and it pushes the tire down off the bead.  I put some diesel fuel around the bead the night before, don't know if it helped or not, but it worked.  dt





Edited by dt1050 - 29 Apr 2017 at 5:59am

a friends father in law bought rear tires, tubes for his case 930 and had them filled with calcium.  decided he would use his Prentiss loader on his log truck to mount them.  first tire went as planned, second one started to slip off so he grabbed the handle and squeezed the grapple right through both side walls!!!  ya could probly hear him swearing from 3 states away!!!

$79 flat rate for service charge to farm here.

So, my 70 year old friend (know each other for 70 years) and I decided that before we died we needed to change a tractor tire.  I had a 16.9x28 that needed changing.  He had a old brass washing machine pump for the calcium and I had a barn we could work in.  Pumped the calcium out into a plastic barrel, everything is good so far. Break the bead with a railroad jack, inside was almost easy. OUTSIDE was a different story, all we did was push the tractor around, finally chained the thing to a post with 20 foot of log chain.  Forgot to tell you about the chairs, we are old so we needed to sit ....a lot.  We got the tire broke down but our old arthritic hands couldn't get the tube with the remaining 4-5 gallons of calcium out of the tire.  Had to wait for my son to get home from a paying job to help us, correction.....do it.  Put the new tube in, learned new words, pinched fingers, learned more new words.  Sat in chairs.... a lot.   Finally were in a position to pump calcium back into tire, that went pretty well.... we had a machine to do it!  Unchained the tractor and put all the jacks, hammers, tire irons, pinch bars, mauls and crow bars away.  Tire/tube did not leak, we didn't put it on backwards, actually drove the tractor out of the barn.  

Don't put yourself through the Missouri, the best money I ever spent on all my repairs was having the tire shop change my tires, for what they charge it is not worth the cussing and swearing.

I got a gadget, similar to this one, from Gemplers, coupla years ago:

Methinks you over paid. Call around, get a fixed price.

I buy my tires and tubes at the local Ag Tire store. Bring them the old tires  they change them no charge. takes them about 20 minutes to do both tires. One set had fluid so they pumped out and disposed of the fluid for me. I didnt want it back in. When they pinched a tube they they demounted and put another new one in. If I buy my tires some where else they charge based on tire size 190 rears were $100 each.

Yeah, I would agree with the above is how I do it now. I gave my .02 on how to do it when I did it myself but ultimately shop around. I have a local tire place that I just unbolt the rims and take the new tires and tubes and wheels with the old tires on my utility trailer to them and they swap the tire for $30 each. Much easier in my opinion to unbolt the rim and toss the assembly on the trailer than change an old tire myself.