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    Posted: 12 Aug 2021 at 8:30pm
There's a post on another forum about an R62 and her "innards". The good DR gave a very good "diagnoses"  of what the owner "might" do. After reading the possible cure to the guys ailment, I'm glad we never delved into the rotor series as far as pulling this/reversing that/taking out every other that to get a clean, non-rotor loss sample compared to our F2 conventional Smile. Are all of these "tweeks" a 10 minute adjustment ?
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

There's a post on another forum about an R62 and her "innards". The good DR gave a very good "diagnoses"  of what the owner "might" do. After reading the possible cure to the guys ailment, I'm glad we never delved into the rotor series as far as pulling this/reversing that/taking out every other that to get a clean, non-rotor loss sample compared to our F2 conventional Smile. Are all of these "tweeks" a 10 minute adjustment ?

Pulling a rotor on a Gleaner is a cake walk. First time dropping the gear box is a brain teaser bet if I had to do it again it would be easy.  Had a conventional don’t miss it.  
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There are many things beyond your cognitive ability.  Stick to an F2.
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For anyone that doesn't know what a pickup is I'm surprised they know where the operator sits in an F2. Beyond that, if you can't understand the principals of how a rotary combine works why start by bashing them? I'm sure R62's have harvested more acres than F2's have. No disrespect intended, the F series where fine combines. I do not understand the ins and outs of the Apollo missions, but I'm sure the operators knew how to run them.
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Originally posted by Joe(OH) Joe(OH) wrote:

For anyone that doesn't know what a pickup is I'm surprised they know where the operator sits in an F2. Beyond that, if you can't understand the principals of how a rotary combine works why start by bashing them? I'm sure R62's have harvested more acres than F2's have. No disrespect intended, the F series where fine combines. I do not understand the ins and outs of the Apollo missions, but I'm sure the operators knew how to run them.
So you run a rotor machine ?? Your crack about a P/U is laughable ClapClap. Are you SURE that '62's have covered more acres (I see a lot of burnt out out rotaries vrs F2's in the salvage yards) ?? I understand the concept, just not the exorbitant amount of "overhauling/tweeking" the guts from factory Ouch
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JOE !!!  Thumbs Up   Thumbs Up
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You see a “bunch” of burnt rotaries in salvage yards because they made them for nearly 40 years. And a long stint with the goofy Duetz that had the air channels that filled with bean fuzz and burnt.
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No matter the brand or style or series of combine, there will be some kind of fault in all of them. Luckily, there is an aftermarket company that will sell you their product that can fix any ill your combine has. I made little fixes all over our "N" series. 

  I think combines and race cars are a lot alike. Having a big engine is a major plus, but change out the cam, crank shaft, or carb, and now recheck your lap time or your quarter mile time. Is a change to the rear end gears all that much different then adding reversing bars? It's all about getting the most out of your combine, while making the cleanest grain sample possible.

  I've remounted the SCH to the under side of the bar on our 8000 head. After that, we cut beans lower then any of our neighbors. We've added air reels, Johnson rock guards, and lengthen unloading augers.    
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There are plenty of different "rotors" for Deere and Farmall combines as well, but NONE easier to modify than a Gleaner.
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by Joe(OH) Joe(OH) wrote:

For anyone that doesn't know what a pickup is I'm surprised they know where the operator sits in an F2. Beyond that, if you can't understand the principals of how a rotary combine works why start by bashing them? I'm sure R62's have harvested more acres than F2's have. No disrespect intended, the F series where fine combines. I do not understand the ins and outs of the Apollo missions, but I'm sure the operators knew how to run them.
So you run a rotor machine ?? Your crack about a P/U is laughable ClapClap. Are you SURE that '62's have covered more acres (I see a lot of burnt out out rotaries vrs F2's in the salvage yards) ?? I understand the concept, just not the exorbitant amount of "overhauling/tweeking" the guts from factory Ouch
I'm pretty sure most of the salvaged F2s, burned or not, left for China a while ago so of course you won't see many. I hade a cousin who had an F2 burn, fuel line takes a bend at a spot and a crack developed in the hose at the and it pointed right at the distributor. That's the way the cooky crumbles. Anymore random questions? Do you want to know why grade 8 bolts are used to hold a D17 flywheel on to the crank while grade 5 bolts are used to hold the pressure plate to the flywheel? Wink
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Sure glad you never had to use real horse power, or mule power. They would of really over whelmed you. Cause they think too.
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Originally posted by Ray54 Ray54 wrote:

Sure glad you never had to use real horse power, or mule power. They would of really over whelmed you. Cause they think too.
I had the pleasure of milking goats a couple weekends ago.... 4 and a half days worth for some friends and them danged things think too. So I'd include goats as something certain people should avoid too.
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Another useless thread.....
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Its the cost of performance.

Rotaries of all colors rely on grain on grain threshing, and small tweaks will affect its performance.

Its like comparing a naturally aspirated diesel to a turbocharged and intercooled diesel.

Its OK to like both, but to suggest that people who swap turbos around to affect the power at a certain point in the RPM range are idiots is pure ignorance.

I ran a R70 and a F2 in the same corn field last year. good reason to run both, and I enjoyed running both.

F2 was for opening up the field endrows and giving my Mom a machine to run without worring if she was doing a good job (slow but consistent), and the R70 was for the sidehills with the accelerator rolls and main runs where its capacity could be utilized.
Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine.

If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help.
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Gleaner reintroduced the conventional combine the C62 from what I read it was a raging faliure.  They didn’t make them for very long must have been a reason.  
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I have never run a rotary so my opinion may be moot in this discussion. But my dad bought a 2 year old K2 when I was 3. I have been running F2/3 for 20 years and a late model L2 for 10. I’ve never run an M series but assume they are similar in reliability to the L. In my opinion the F series is the best little conventional combine gleaner ever built. We have never had a major breakdown with one. I cannot say the same for the L2. But it does eat beans and corn.

I will never sell my F3 unless I find a nicer one, which is unlikely. I have however been eyeing R52/62s lately. The L2 will probably be replaced in a couple years. I’m looking forward to the challenge.

I doubt I added any valuable information to this thread but I should at least get a participation trophy
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