R Series Rotors?
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Topic: R Series Rotors?
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: R Series Rotors?
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2021 at 8:30pm
There's a post on another forum about an R62 and her "innards". The good DR gave a very good "diagnoses" of what the owner "might" do. After reading the possible cure to the guys ailment, I'm glad we never delved into the rotor series as far as pulling this/reversing that/taking out every other that to get a clean, non-rotor loss sample compared to our F2 conventional . Are all of these "tweeks" a 10 minute adjustment ?
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2021 at 8:52pm
FREEDGUY wrote:
There's a post on another forum about an R62 and her "innards". The good DR gave a very good "diagnoses" of what the owner "might" do. After reading the possible cure to the guys ailment, I'm glad we never delved into the rotor series as far as pulling this/reversing that/taking out every other that to get a clean, non-rotor loss sample compared to our F2 conventional . Are all of these "tweeks" a 10 minute adjustment ? |
Pulling a rotor on a Gleaner is a cake walk. First time dropping the gear box is a brain teaser bet if I had to do it again it would be easy. Had a conventional don’t miss it.
------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2021 at 9:38pm
There are many things beyond your cognitive ability. Stick to an F2.
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Posted By: Joe(OH)
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2021 at 10:43pm
For anyone that doesn't know what a pickup is I'm surprised they know where the operator sits in an F2. Beyond that, if you can't understand the principals of how a rotary combine works why start by bashing them? I'm sure R62's have harvested more acres than F2's have. No disrespect intended, the F series where fine combines. I do not understand the ins and outs of the Apollo missions, but I'm sure the operators knew how to run them.
------------- Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2021 at 8:36pm
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2021 at 9:14pm
JOE !!! 
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2021 at 3:08am
You see a “bunch” of burnt rotaries in salvage yards because they made them for nearly 40 years. And a long stint with the goofy Duetz that had the air channels that filled with bean fuzz and burnt.
------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2021 at 5:41am
No matter the brand or style or series of combine, there will be some kind of fault in all of them. Luckily, there is an aftermarket company that will sell you their product that can fix any ill your combine has. I made little fixes all over our "N" series.
I think combines and race cars are a lot alike. Having a big engine is a major plus, but change out the cam, crank shaft, or carb, and now recheck your lap time or your quarter mile time. Is a change to the rear end gears all that much different then adding reversing bars? It's all about getting the most out of your combine, while making the cleanest grain sample possible.
I've remounted the SCH to the under side of the bar on our 8000 head. After that, we cut beans lower then any of our neighbors. We've added air reels, Johnson rock guards, and lengthen unloading augers.
------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2021 at 7:31am
There are plenty of different "rotors" for Deere and Farmall combines as well, but NONE easier to modify than a Gleaner.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2021 at 6:58pm
I'm pretty sure most of the salvaged F2s, burned or not, left for China a while ago so of course you won't see many. I hade a cousin who had an F2 burn, fuel line takes a bend at a spot and a crack developed in the hose at the and it pointed right at the distributor. That's the way the cooky crumbles. Anymore random questions? Do you want to know why grade 8 bolts are used to hold a D17 flywheel on to the crank while grade 5 bolts are used to hold the pressure plate to the flywheel? 
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2021 at 7:22pm
Sure glad you never had to use real horse power, or mule power. They would of really over whelmed you. Cause they think too.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2021 at 8:17pm
Ray54 wrote:
Sure glad you never had to use real horse power, or mule power. They would of really over whelmed you. Cause they think too. | I had the pleasure of milking goats a couple weekends ago.... 4 and a half days worth for some friends and them danged things think too. So I'd include goats as something certain people should avoid too.
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Posted By: ACFarmer
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2021 at 8:26pm
Another useless thread.....
------------- Making a living farming with and working on Allis Equipment
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Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2021 at 4:18pm
Its the cost of performance.
Rotaries of all colors rely on grain on grain threshing, and small tweaks will affect its performance.
Its like comparing a naturally aspirated diesel to a turbocharged and intercooled diesel.
Its OK to like both, but to suggest that people who swap turbos around to affect the power at a certain point in the RPM range are idiots is pure ignorance.
I ran a R70 and a F2 in the same corn field last year. good reason to run both, and I enjoyed running both.
F2 was for opening up the field endrows and giving my Mom a machine to run without worring if she was doing a good job (slow but consistent), and the R70 was for the sidehills with the accelerator rolls and main runs where its capacity could be utilized.
------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine.
If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help.
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2021 at 9:21pm
Gleaner reintroduced the conventional combine the C62 from what I read it was a raging faliure. They didn’t make them for very long must have been a reason.
------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Posted By: wekracer
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2021 at 9:14pm
I have never run a rotary so my opinion may be moot in this discussion. But my dad bought a 2 year old K2 when I was 3. I have been running F2/3 for 20 years and a late model L2 for 10. I’ve never run an M series but assume they are similar in reliability to the L. In my opinion the F series is the best little conventional combine gleaner ever built. We have never had a major breakdown with one. I cannot say the same for the L2. But it does eat beans and corn.
I will never sell my F3 unless I find a nicer one, which is unlikely. I have however been eyeing R52/62s lately. The L2 will probably be replaced in a couple years. I’m looking forward to the challenge.
I doubt I added any valuable information to this thread but I should at least get a participation trophy
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