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    Posted: 29 Apr 2016 at 3:49am

One of the bucket cylinders has a small leak on the TS 500 loader on the D14. The rods are 1 1/2" dia but I do not find ANY numbers etc anywhere on cylinders. Where do Ya'll buy the packing kits / seal kits for the loader cylinders on the bucket,,?
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call Sandy Lake when I repacked my b cyl they fixed me right up
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BEARINGS, OIL SEALS & WHEEL BEARING ... - Baum Hydraulics Corp

I did the neighbors JD loader lift arm cylinder, JD cost 85$, Baum cost 15$ and the seals where good quality from Baum.
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Hey Great,,,Guys,,,Fixin to start makin some calls and go ahead and get seals/ packing for both of the cylinders cause the nuts are both taken all the way up,,THANKS,,,
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Hey Joe

Have a close look at those cylinders.

I took the bucket tilt cylinders off my D-15 Model 415 Loader  to a 'hydraulic shop' about 3 years ago because they were leaking.

Yours may be similar and have a 'small' and 'large' O ring inside.

Here is another link to GrandpasTractor website.

Page 29 shows the inards of the cylinder.

Gary

BTW I just got a new Laptop and I had to register to get on the site.

Have you registered ?

P.29

http://grandpas-tractor-site.s3.amazonaws.com/manuals/ac/equipment/400-500-series-loader.pdf?javer=1604290343
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Hey Gary,,,well,,chit,,I never got around to makin any calls yesterday,,,it's been really windy here the last week and can't get nuttin done out side,,,, I been piddlin with the scooter to get it ready to sell,,,
I tried that link but it just took me to a blank page,,,try it again later this morn,,,,,
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Do most of those loader cylinders now use seals Vs packing,,??

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Morn'n Joe

I am no expert on hyd. cylinders by any means.

The older model single acting cylinders on Allis loaders have the Chevron Style V seals at the top. Those you can tighten the compressing nut some as the seals wear.

I guess you need the O ring on the shaft of the double acting cylinders because you are pressurizing the cylinder on both sides.

One side to push it out and one side to push it in.

Gary
 
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Originally posted by desertjoe desertjoe wrote:


 
Do most of those loader cylinders now use seals Vs packing,,??


It looks like the AC cylinder used Vs packing on the piston head and the large and small O rings on the piston guide, the part where the piston goes through at the end of the cylinder. If the inside of the cylinder is rough I use a brake cylinder hone and diesel fuel in a spray bottle to polish it. To start the V packing into the cylinder I use a ring compressor on them. Some types use a funnel style tool to get the packing into the cylinder.  
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Ok,,Gary and Nella,Thanks for your input,,,I'm goin to hold up removing the cylinders on the loader til I get the backhoe lashed up on the tractor,,,,I'm hopin the seals, after settin so long, relax some and maybe start sealin again,,but I don't want NO LEAKS however it works out,,,
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