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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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Fellows I was at the Family Center in Creston Iowa today. The store has been bought out by Bomgaars. Everything is being sold. They had a pallet of plow lays sitting outside today. I saw soma AC, MF, IHC, JD and some shins on the pallet. They were marked between $20.00 -$25.00 each. Last I bought from IHC were about 1/2 that, but that was 15 years ago. Anybody need any would probably be best to stop in and look. The gals in the store got a funny look on their face when I asked about plow lays. I do not think they had a clew as to what I was talking about.
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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What you are calling LAYs are often called Plow Shares, though the AC plow bottoms book I have also calls some of them Plow Blades.
Most of us spell clues, not clews. Gerald J. |
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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they prolly thoughts you was trying to get frisky with them! you dirty ole man! lol
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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Tom....you should buy everything that has to do with AC
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Ted J ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18923 |
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That's what I was thinkin Shameless. He could store all that Allis stuff for a few years and then,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well,,,,,,,,,he could sell it for half and make some of us happy....
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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Gerald, what you are calling "shares", do you mean POINTS, LAND SIDES or the entire "BOARD"? I also have no clue what HD is referring to
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21489 |
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The following are common descriptions for the highest wear replacement part on any moldboard plow:......lays.......shares.......blades.......I suppose one could call them "points", but I've never heard that one. The suction point is what wears off of the lay, share, blade.
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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That is what we call them "here", POINTS; the first thing that hits the ground. Still not sure what a "lay" would pertain to other than prom night
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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Lays, points, blades, shares are all names for the replaceable bottom cutting edges of the moldboard plow. The moldboards are the larger curved metal sheets that turn over the soil cut loose by the shares. Generally moldboards and share bolt to the frog that is the internal frame of the plow bottom that mounts to the plow frame shank. The leading edge of the moldboard cuts the vertical side of the furrow usually (left side on a right hand plow bottom) but some plow bottom designs have a separate cutting edge called a shin. Most plows have a flat runner on the left side of the frog that rides on the left side of the furrow (right hand plow) to handle the side thrust from the share and the moldboard, its called a landside. There can be other accessories mounted on the top of the moldboard and a coulter out front to help cut the left side of the furrow. Multiple bottom plow frames can have a leaning wheel behind the rearmost bottom to handle more of the side thrust and also provide depth control for the rear bottoms. My 2000 plow has a gauge wheel that rides on the unplowed land to the left to set the depth of the rear of the bottoms.
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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We call them points or shares. Never heard of "lays".
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29792 |
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When I worked at the CaseIH dealership in parts, I heard it all. And for some reason I knew what they meant every time. And my parts manager had never heard the term "lay" used for a share. He wasn't really from a farm and man did the farmer asking for new lays get upset when the manager didn't know what he wanted! Ornery farmers!
Now what is it when someone walks in and wants new shoes for their field cultivator? That was a new term for me, and I only heard it recently too. Edited by Lonn - 01 Apr 2018 at 5:59am |
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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Dad has owned several ALLIS snap-coupler 4x16 plows that I don't recall the model #'s( the early one just had a swiveling tail wheel,the later was steerable) so I am familiar with points,shins,moldboards,land sides and cover boards. Seems like I have heard the term "frog" though. Is that a single piece or a combination of parts?
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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Frogs are the frames that tie the other plow bottom parts together and then attach to the shank of the plow frame. Frogs in AC plows are mostly single parts, but some are put together out of a couple parts. Look up the plow bottoms manual linked over in the thread AC Plows Parts 101 in the Knowledge forum.
AC called the lower cutting edges shares and blades. Mostly blades in 3xx plow bottom numbers. Gerald J. |
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