New plow lays
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Topic: New plow lays
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Subject: New plow lays
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2018 at 8:40pm
| Fellows I was at the Family Center in Creston Iowa today. The store has been bought out by Bomgaars. Everything is being sold. They had a pallet of plow lays sitting outside today. I saw soma AC, MF, IHC, JD and some shins on the pallet. They were marked between $20.00 -$25.00 each. Last I bought from IHC were about 1/2 that, but that was 15 years ago. Anybody need any would probably be best to stop in and look. The gals in the store got a funny look on their face when I asked about plow lays. I do not think they had a clew as to what I was talking about. |
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2018 at 9:43pm
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What you are calling LAYs are often called Plow Shares, though the AC plow bottoms book I have also calls some of them Plow Blades. Most of us spell clues, not clews. Gerald J. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 2:47am
| they prolly thoughts you was trying to get frisky with them! you dirty ole man! lol |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 2:47am
| Tom....you should buy everything that has to do with AC |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 8:44am
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That's what I was thinkin Shameless. He could store all that Allis stuff for a few years and then,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well,,,,,,,,,he could sell it for half and make some of us happy.... ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 8:10pm
Gerald, what you are calling "shares", do you mean POINTS, LAND SIDES or the entire "BOARD"? I also have no clue what HD is referring to
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Gerald J. wrote:Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 8:26pm
| The following are common descriptions for the highest wear replacement part on any moldboard plow:......lays.......shares.......blades.......I suppose one could call them "points", but I've never heard that one. The suction point is what wears off of the lay, share, blade. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 8:51pm
That is what we call them "here", POINTS; the first thing that hits the ground. Still not sure what a "lay" would pertain to other than prom night  Have a HAPPY EASTER TO ALL!!
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 9:58pm
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Lays, points, blades, shares are all names for the replaceable bottom cutting edges of the moldboard plow. The moldboards are the larger curved metal sheets that turn over the soil cut loose by the shares. Generally moldboards and share bolt to the frog that is the internal frame of the plow bottom that mounts to the plow frame shank. The leading edge of the moldboard cuts the vertical side of the furrow usually (left side on a right hand plow bottom) but some plow bottom designs have a separate cutting edge called a shin. Most plows have a flat runner on the left side of the frog that rides on the left side of the furrow (right hand plow) to handle the side thrust from the share and the moldboard, its called a landside. There can be other accessories mounted on the top of the moldboard and a coulter out front to help cut the left side of the furrow. Multiple bottom plow frames can have a leaning wheel behind the rearmost bottom to handle more of the side thrust and also provide depth control for the rear bottoms. My 2000 plow has a gauge wheel that rides on the unplowed land to the left to set the depth of the rear of the bottoms. Gerald J. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 10:33pm
| We call them points or shares. Never heard of "lays". |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 5:57am
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When I worked at the CaseIH dealership in parts, I heard it all. And for some reason I knew what they meant every time. And my parts manager had never heard the term "lay" used for a share. He wasn't really from a farm and man did the farmer asking for new lays get upset when the manager didn't know what he wanted! Ornery farmers! Now what is it when someone walks in and wants new shoes for their field cultivator? That was a new term for me, and I only heard it recently too. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 9:28am
| Dad has owned several ALLIS snap-coupler 4x16 plows that I don't recall the model #'s( the early one just had a swiveling tail wheel,the later was steerable) so I am familiar with points,shins,moldboards,land sides and cover boards. Seems like I have heard the term "frog" though. Is that a single piece or a combination of parts? |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 10:41am
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Frogs are the frames that tie the other plow bottom parts together and then attach to the shank of the plow frame. Frogs in AC plows are mostly single parts, but some are put together out of a couple parts. Look up the plow bottoms manual linked over in the thread AC Plows Parts 101 in the Knowledge forum. AC called the lower cutting edges shares and blades. Mostly blades in 3xx plow bottom numbers. Gerald J. |