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Thad in AR. ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9643 |
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I’ve started being my mammas care taker. Brother doesn’t seem to have time to help and my other brother lives 700 miles away. My wife works lots of hrs but still does a bunch for mother. She fell a week ago and broke her knee cap. She has a special brace to wear. I have to put the brace off and on after she showers or changes cloths. This has given me the chance to make sure she takes her meds like she’s supposed to. She was getting the meds mixed up. I’m so sad of her condition it’s tearing me up. She’s calling me at work often and it’s causing some grief.
I had to take over her finances a few months back. I’m learning and getting used to the situation. I’m grateful for Jenny. She’s been a huge help and has the medical experience. My hat’s off to each of you that have been through this or are going through this. |
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Hubert (Ga)engine7 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson Cnty,GA Points: 6464 |
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Thad, being a caretaker for a family member, especially a parent, is one of the most demanding jobs there is and the stress will wear you down. Check on what is available in home health care services that can give you a break every now and then. We had my Mom for just a few weeks before she passed and just a month later had to bring my Dad to live with us for four years. We have had my wife's Mom for about five years now. She is 94 and in reasonably good health and can be left alone overnight if need be. Sometimes my wife goes to visit out daughter for a few days just to get a break and I can go to the farm for a few days and get some relief. Praying that our LORD gives you and Jenny wisdom and strength as you care for your Mom.
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Ted J ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18943 |
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I'm doing that right now with my Mother Thad. I've been doing it now for almost 2 years (July). It is really hard and I have learned to keep my mouth shut when I want to just scream. She is in GREAT physical shape, but her mind is not very good. Thank the Lord that she is now in an 'assisted living' facility. That takes a load off of me now. I still have things that I have to do about every other day though. Love will see us through this, the love of the Lord and our love for each other. My wife is very understanding and knows I have to be away from home a lot. It's just really sad when someone's mind starts to fail. I pray others don't have to go through this, but I know that is not possible.
Prayers for you and Jen to help you through this hardship. Give Mom a hug from another Allis nut. That should give her a smile. |
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13692 |
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Well,,Thad,,I really feel for you and Jen and your Mother. I'm hoping and praying that she gets better soon so as to free up your time like before. I won't try to sugarcoat anyone and say it has been easy being a caretaker,,,it is a very difficult and demanding responsibility that takes up a big part of a person's day. I have had several people come up to me and start telling me their story about their experience being the caretaker for a family member that has since passed on. To a one,,,they have all told me they will not ever volunteer to do that again, They all had other family members that had so many different reasons as to WHY they could not take care of the sick person which is kinda sad but it is what it is,,,,,A person just gots to stretch your shoulders out even more and hope you gots room for even more to carry
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Bob D. (La) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Louisiana Points: 25529 |
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Prayers for you and Jenny. It is probably the most demanding and stressful task anyone has to undertake. I had the opportunity to do much the same for my best friend and neighbor during his last 6 months of life. His wife did her best, but she just didn't have the physical strength to handle him. That was near two years ago and I'm still worn out. Should the need arise, I would do it again, but just don't want to think about it. I pray that I suddenly pass and don't bring on such a situation to my family. God Bless.
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When you find yourself in a hole,PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!!!
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Dave H ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central IL Points: 3577 |
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Hubert has a great suggestion in checking in on the home health care services that may be available. I just lost a friend and the wife had no idea of what was available until it was too late.
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TimNearFortWorth ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014 |
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It is proven that many caretakers can be run down to the point of their own health declining so take extra care of yourselves.
Cancer in the family taking both parents within two years (plus the oldest brother passing between both parents) has taken a mighty toll on my family. Somebody will need assistance with care duties and when it does not happen resentment can set in quickly.
Really surfaces when time to settle an estate as someone will carry that lack of assistance with care taking forever. Stopping to discuss what is needed for help can be tough but has to be done; two of my sisters just could not get it into their heads that the brother with a dairy was not available early mornings and late afternoons/early evenings because he was milking. That lead to complaints of spring/summer/fall when some wanted to get away but again, brother was busy with crops fighting weather windows. Good luck with it and when the day comes, home hospice care may be a viable option like it was for our family as both parents would not allow any discussion about being put into a facility.
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tadams(OH) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10857 |
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Check with medicare I think they have home help aids that stop in to give a hand. Prayers for you and Jenny
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john(MI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9262 |
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I read an interesting quote one day. "If you are taking care of a parent and you get frustrated, just think about the years of care s/he provided you, without complaint!" My wife and I work Home Care for elderly. If the person is below the poverty level you can get paid, in MI anyway, for taking care of an elderly person, even a relative. Current pay is $16.50/hr M.I.L. receives 17xx hours of care per month. You do the math. Just thought I would throw that out there for yous. After working my entire life and never receiving any assistance, not even unemployment, I don't have a problem accepting this one bit! |
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Ray54 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4723 |
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You are doing what you can,but at some point it likely will be more than you can handle. At least without harming your own heath. So keep in mind the suggestions of help from outside sources. It seems help is out there,just that it is hidden. I will stop and not rant and become political about the system.
Pray and look to the Lord for help. And many here will pray along with me,for your situation.
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Thad in AR. ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9643 |
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We have considered area of the aging to help a bit but don’t know the details. She’s lonely and that’s a problem as we live way out of town so she’s used to driving her self to town any time she wants.
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tadams(OH) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10857 |
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My mother has been in assisted living but she is running out of money and will be moving to a rest home, it's crazy that they won't pay for assisted living but will pay more for a person to go to rest home and get same thing, single room. Just more lobbyist getting paid from the rest homes.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 33850 |
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Wife and I ended up taking up as errand runners for my Dad, he checked himself into a Assisted Living Center so would not become a family burden. Wife's Dad ended up with Emphysema at 67, full blown COPD with running bacterial pneumonia or bronchitis or both until lung function drifted too low to maneuver, she then aided her mother in care of him as Hospice workers, ugly year, uglier still that physicians and nurses had explained to the both of them did not want to go down that road but did not listen. Wife is still depressed as to how her Dad passed and nothing she could do but watch. Her Mother was but just over 10 years after, she lived a good long life but had been on blood thinners as well open heart surgery which related to her strokes. In the last year she had two small strokes back to back, went in the hospital one last time with another and as she laid in E-room she was found to be suffering from fluid filling her lungs, no way to stop it or control it or to prevent her death so SHE opted to just go to sleep and pass on, knew it was her time, entire family all about her.
My Dad was a alcoholic, had several small imbalance issues where fell, gave himself brain bleeds which eventually triggered a massive stroke in his sleep, went quietly and in no pain. Mom died in 92, older brother in 93 so Dad was trying to drown his sorrows thru a brown bottle, few would argue it with him. Younger Brother took care of our Grandmother, she had to have someone watch her finances and her meds where my shifts schedules prevented such, our Cousin also aided in that her Mom was already gone(Grandma's sis) and she felt obliged to take care of her Aunt. Lots of helping hands among all but still gut wrenchers all. |
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13692 |
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UMMm,,I guess I'm a little dense at the two descriptions you use,,,assisted living and rest home. How do those compare with a "Nursing Home"?
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klinemar ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 8053 |
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My wife and children were caretakers for my Dad until his Parkinson's disease made us unable to care for him and he went to the Medical Care facility. My Mom stayed home until she passed but needed help as she had crippling arthritis and could not drive. Currently we took care of my wife's mother who until recently lived near us and has Alzheimers and moved to an assisted living home. I am also looking after my 90 year old Aunt who is starting to fail. She played women's professional baseball in the 40's and 50's and is still pretty damn tough but her heart is wearing out along with her running gear! There were days when I had the why me attitude! Then I would say to myself some people are caretakers and some are just taker's!
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Thad in AR. ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9643 |
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Thank you. I find this quite inspiring. |
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Stan IL&TN ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elvis Land Points: 6730 |
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Thad my only suggestion is to keep your two brothers in the loop when it comes to managing your mothers finances. i have seen it happen that when one person handles the parents money that when the parent passes on the others get hurt feelings because they think there should have been more money left in the bank and think some stealing has been going on. So now not only do you have to care for your mother but you have to put on the soft gloves for your brothers. Take care and God bless.
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Thad in AR. ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9643 |
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Stan I do keep them in the loop. So much that I’m sure they cringe every time their phone rings. We’re keeping track of all we spend to keep her afloat. My Colorado brother and an uncle has helped us some with expenses. My brothers and have a good relationship so far. We’re in a share holder situation and we already split everything equal and everyone seems happy. I do know things can change. We’re well documented. |
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tadams(OH) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10857 |
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assisted living is you have your own living area and a commons eating area and entertainment area. There's also a nurse that makes sure everyone takes there meds as required. Rest Home is the same as Nursing Home
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klinemar ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 8053 |
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Thad,to protect your mom, your brothers and yourself you need power of attorney both financial and medical. This allows you to make decisions regarding paying your mothers Bill's and medical treatment. Hospitals do not have to honor a patients wishes for treatment or divulge information. Most do but on occasion some don't. A POA agreement gives you protection and allows you to make decisions about medical treatment a d honor your mother's wishes. I had one for my mom and am planning g on getting one for my Aunt. Your will be accepting primary care of your mom unless your brothers step in as alternates .
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Thad in AR. ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9643 |
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I am her power of attorney and Jenny is medical power of attorney. The brother here is secondary. |
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Ted J ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18943 |
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You're doing good buddy, everything sounds good. It's a hard road, but just think of the alternative. I have to agree with Bob D., I want to go quickly when that first hitch in the giddy-up happens. i too do not want to be a burden to anyone.
After the fact, you will feel pretty good about yourself and will have a better relationship with Jen because of the love you shared with Mom. It's hard, but very satisfying knowing you cared enough for the woman who brought you into this world. Just don't go blaming anyone else for not being there. That is a door you don't even want to open. I saw it happen with my Aunts and Uncles about my grandparents. Be happy YOU have that special time with Mom. No matter now hard it gets, she just loves the heck out of you. Don't lose your temper or get discouraged. It's all about love. If you need to talk, you still got my number? You can and will do this. Just think of all the dirty diapers you gave her...... |
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klinemar ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 8053 |
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Thad if you get down in the dumps private message me here and I will respond!I have been through a lot of this with both parents and my wife's family. I lost my sister before both of my parents passed so I was and still am the Lone Ranger from my family! I can credit my wife and adult children for helping! It's not an easy task but as Ted says your Mom took care of you and now you can help take care of her!
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13692 |
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Hey Thad,,,Times 2 what everybody is sayin. If she is on Madicare, there are a whole lot of benefits available but like ole Ray says above,,,you just got to know where to look cause they do not make those things readily known. Start with her case worker to find what your Momma qualifies for, and don't be surprised at some that she does not qualify for,,,it is amlost shocking what the guvment thinks she has to so without,!! Altho, there are lots that she can get, like Home Health,which provide a nurse for a 1 hour to come to your house up to 3 times per week to check up on her. Fact is,,there is a commercial that Joe Namath, (remember him?) talks about all the things that are available,,you just gotta call em and find out,,,he even says they have home delivered meals,,,who'd a thought ole Joe Namath is getting home delivered meals,,??? LOL
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Thad in AR. ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9643 |
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Jenny met with area of the aging. Yesterday. They came out to see what mom qualifying for. I was supposed to be there but circumstances at work held me up. The lady really liked mom and wants to help.
We didn’t have quite all the paper work she needed so Jenn and I will gather it today. Then a nurse comes out to evaluate the situation. |
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13692 |
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Well,,,That is just great, Thad,,Ya'll are on your way to better care for your Mother. Thing to do is agree with most of the things available up front,,,you can always just cancel them that she doesn't like,,,,
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Ray54 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4723 |
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Hopefully the government people you deal with are into helping you and not having there own power trip. As much as I hate to say it a lawyer earned his pay helping my sisters and I with parents and the heath issues.
An for DJ question and it's probably different in every state,but here assisted living cannot handle the pills and such. So once you slip to far around the bend
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Thad in AR. ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9643 |
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I had to go to town yesterday for some things. I went and got mom and brought her with me. First time she’s been out since she fell.
I did my running and took her to eat at a place she likes. Luckily I knew the waitress and have since she was a little kid. I went to pay and she showed me a check mom wrote last time she was there. The check was from an old account mom had over 20 years ago. Same bank but wrong address and phone number. She told me the bank wouldn’t accept the check. I payed that as well and thanked the girl for not going after mom. When we got to her house I made her go through stuff to find more of those outdated checks. We found nothing. I’m gonna get all her checks and make her use a debit card. My poor brothers are probably getting tired of hearing this stuff every day but it’s how it is. I believe I’ve been in denial my self but now I’m getting slapped in the face with reality. It was a fun day otherwise. |
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TimNearFortWorth ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014 |
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Our family researched home upgrades through a NY State program but Dad was too proud initially. Finally relented about 3 years before he passed so it was pro-rated as it was a 5 year deal, state took the balance out of the estate we just sold to a neighbor.
Many states have these programs for folks that want to/can still live at home and my Dad ended up with a new roof, new on-demand tankless water heater, new furnace and whole house insulation program. Family members were always on-site for reviewing suggested upgrades and the work they did as state program had pre-approved contractors, some our family had experiences with and they allowed "second choice" contractors to be used. Something worth mentioning is our Dad insisted for years that the CC companies would forgive any CC balances when he passed so we watched that closely due to the daily calls from companies that prey on the elderly. Well, low and behold, he was right as when contacted after he passed, the two cards advised that with a copy of the passing proof, they cleared both accounts and gave something in writing. Was not a huge amount on either card but surprised all of us that the card companies did this, we figured we would have to pay them off.
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Hubert (Ga)engine7 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson Cnty,GA Points: 6464 |
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Thad, I would look at a credit card vs a debit card. Here in Georgia if the card is compromised, i.e. unauthorized charges, you are not on the hook for the loss if it is a credit card. Also with a debit card your Mom will have to have the pin number every time she uses it.
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