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Largest Allis corn planter you have seen |
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WD45 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: STAYNER,ONTARIO Points: 954 |
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The largest Allis Chalmers corn planter that you have seen, operated or owned.
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Fred Dunlop, G,B,CA, WC,WF, 3 WD45`s,gas, diesel and LP,U,D10 series III, D12,D14,D15 SERIES II,D17 Series IV in Gas and Diesel ,D19 GAS and D21,170 185,210 ,220 an I-600 8070 fwd, 716H and 1920H
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Unit3 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: NC Iowa Points: 5571 |
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I have seen a 12r30 front fold and a 16r30 front fold bar painted blue with Kinze units. Both were on dealers lots.
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2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C
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grinder220 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Clinton Iowa Points: 2367 |
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If you count in pictures then 24 rows.
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22824 |
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Allis Chalmers corn planter ? ![]() Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 14 May 2015 at 9:25pm |
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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Skyhighballoon(MO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115 |
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Charlie - might have been Allis planter frames retrofitted with Kinze units? I too am curious. Mike
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
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Unit3 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: NC Iowa Points: 5571 |
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Yes, both were AC bars. The 12r30 was AC orange and AC units. I remember they both had a huge hydraulic stacks with a million hoses running from them down on the hitch. I would love to see a 24r30 bar and also to watch it unfold.
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2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C
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SLee(IA) ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Polk City, Iowa Points: 264 |
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In mid 80's I saw a Kinze? toolbar with 16 Allis 78 units. Not sure if toolbar was Kinze or other. Question for Lynn Marshall. Wasn't some one in your area building planter toolbars back in that time.
Steve
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Unit3 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: NC Iowa Points: 5571 |
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Is his town Paton, Iowa?
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2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C
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SLee(IA) ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Polk City, Iowa Points: 264 |
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Yes
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JET8070 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 May 2015 Location: PA Points: 60 |
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24r30 DA385 front fold 390 bar. True flat land planter.
Edited by JET8070 - 15 May 2015 at 11:31am |
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SHAMELESS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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I have an 8-38 3-pt with end transport, I've only seen up to 24 row in a pic.
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SHAMELESS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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don't know what brand this one was, but in the 70's, saw a 36 row planter being set down into a field by Fremont Ne. was carried by a helicopter, tractor was already in the field ready to be hooked up! stopped and watched for awhile.
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Unit3 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: NC Iowa Points: 5571 |
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There are a few 3800 Kinze 36r30 planters around us. If I counted right, they have 30 tires to keep aired up. Not orange, but still a sight to behold.
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SHAMELESS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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the new planters of today are horribly expensive to buy and upkeep is also horrible! all the wiring, hoses, hyd's, tires, computers, connectors, meters! every year they hafta start 2 onths ahead of planting to do maintance, replace worn stuff (just a year old), clean all contacts, lube, re-adjust, replace cracked wires (mouse chewed too), clean tubes, replace most all bearings, fix tires, re-program putters/monitors! give me an old plate type planter any day...grease, clean drop tubes, match seed to plates, air up a tire, and go! takes maybe 1 hour if you work slow! I put 2 brand new tires on my 6-row last year, I see they are still holding air just fine! should last another 10 years! I paid $600 for this planter some 20-25 years ago, it has cost me about that in repairs since I bought it, and my corn/bean stands is just as good as the stands those $100,000+ planters do! mine came with a monitor, but only used it 1 year. everyone always coments of what a nice stand I have, they ask what kind of planter is use? when I say and old AC planted...I get the deer eyes in the headlights looks!
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Unit3 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: NC Iowa Points: 5571 |
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LOL Deere Eyes. Good one Shameless. One thing you forgot was the GPS one todays planters. Last year, I bought the Omnistar package for our corn planter tractor. $800 and it worked good. This year I ran it on WAS free signal along with the planter maker. Still ran good. I had to nudge it at times to keep the mark straight, but I still have my $800.
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2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C
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SHAMELESS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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yeah...I did fergits the GPS! have ya seen....well I have anyway...a lot of people buying this precision stuff for planting and field mapping, and drive straight stuff...and GPS...and then the next year or 2 they are trying to sell the stuff and re-coop some of their money? I've been seeing a lot of that the last 4-5 years! hope yours keeps up Unit3!
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SHAMELESS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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one of the neighbors has one of them big bulb lookin things on top of the cabs of his tractor and combine...dunno what all it does...but probably does what he should know about his fields anyway! I know where all the bad spots are in my fields...I don't need to spend $10,000. to remind me!
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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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back in the 80's pal of mine bought an 8550 with 12 row planter It razed up and turned 90 degrees to tow it down the road.
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Lynn Marshall ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Dana, Iowa Points: 2343 |
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Not really Allis related. Vaugn Bauer did start making his own planter tool bars in Paton,Iowa ,probably in the 80's. Using the name of Bauer Built,they were a bare bar painted in whatever color the customer wanted. The customer then added whatever units he desired.Later,Bauer went into a joint venture with Deere to produce the DB line of planters.These were fully assembled planters, made in Paton at a new factory. These planters were up to 36 and even 48 row models. 120 foot tool bars!! Bauer recently sold the factory to Deere and has since,built another new factory just north of the old one.He is making specialty planters for Deere in the new facility. This one has 72 units on a 60 foot frame. Oh yes,the largest Allis planter that I have seen was at a show in Kansas City. It was a 24 row model and was quite impressive for its day.
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8050/8030/185 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: United States Points: 171 |
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Allis Chalmers 390 At the 1981 FPS Demo'd it for AC. Largest in the world at that time with 24 rows. There were only two put together at that time. I had the show one at the FPS and the other was at the Gleaner factory in MO. Got to know a lot of great AC Corp. people. It was 3 yrs before anyone else had a 24 row planter. It was numbered 390 because it would plant 390 acres in one day.
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22824 |
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In 1977 on my way to work one day, I saw 2 green and yellow 24 row corn planters at Norris Farms near Lewistown, Il. They might have been the first 24 row planters as Norris Farms was a place JD did experimental work. I don't believe these were production models!
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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HudCo ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jan 2013 Location: Plymouth Utah Points: 3770 |
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how is that thing transported ? does the maintaince staff have on board cabins ?
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Steve Bright ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Martinsville, I Points: 2104 |
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Neighbor has a 12/30 AC planter, hasn't been used for a few years now
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Lynn Marshall ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Dana, Iowa Points: 2343 |
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Mike, as large as that planter is in the pictures, it is ''only '' on a 60 foot bar. The DB 120 is twice as wide. It doesn't have as many units but it is still twice as big.
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21383 |
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Fall (Sept) of 1980 unveiled the new 24-row model A-C 390 planter at FPS in Nevada, Iowa. The frame was a Carmaco and the units were #78 AirChamp.
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JimIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Castalia Iowa Points: 1983 |
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There used to be a 24 row here in Iowa just west of the intersection of hwy 9 and 63. They used it until a few years ago and updated it with a newer planter. It was advertised for a few months before it was sold. I would have loved to buy it just as a collectable but my All-Crops already take up too much shed space! lol
I do remember seeing it folded up and in the field, it was an impressive sight. Were they the first 24 row planter? |
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8050/8030/185 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: United States Points: 171 |
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The 390 needed a seed tender wagon to fill all 24 of those boxes, which had not been made yet. Also a plus showing the 390 was to meet Loretta and Moonie Lynn. We had to change the axles on the 390 at the FPS because the tires were rubbing the frame. If that wasn't a fun job at 0600 in the morning. That was also the year that the N series Combine made the JD 8820 look like junk in the field. The N was cruising with a 12 row and the 8820 had to set stakes to see if it moved with a 12 row head. A neighbor bought the 7000 series that was atop the silo there at Nevada. The electro hydraulic switches to run the Carmaco bar was interesting. And was told at that time it took the 7080 that I was using at the show or the 7580 to pull the 390. Those were the days!
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22824 |
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The Deeres I saw may have been 2 12's put together but there were 2 of them with 24 rows and it was the spring of 77. Deere didn't go to production of 24 rows till after Allis though. According to what I have read, Deere didn't have a production 12 or 16 till 79.
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29792 |
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I've seen a 12/30 something or other Allis with AC air units that our neighbor had bought new back in the early 80's. Dad and him used to rent land from the same guy and they would rotate the acres. Dad would have a certain 80 and this guy had the other 80 and switch 80s every other year. Dad also rented another 80 from the same land owner that never got rotated. That's the biggest Allis planter I've ever seen in person. The 80's took him out of business after he helped take out the local AC dealer and fertilizer/seed dealer.
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SLee(IA) ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Polk City, Iowa Points: 264 |
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Thanks Lynn. Bauer Built. Now I remember. Wonder if those DB planters were what Harry Stine was using for his ultra narrow row corn?
Steve
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