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    Posted: 14 May 2016 at 8:14am
Just read that Kubota has purchased Great Plains!
Dad always said "we didn't win WWII over the Japs" just changed how they battled us.Cry
Here's the link. 
http://www.ksal.com/great-plains-manufacturing-sold-to-japanese-company/ 
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Don, bad as I hate to say it, probably half of what they build is done at factories here in Georgia, they have 4 or 5 huge plants here just North of Atlanta. I'm sure most little parts are still from Japan, but most any piece that is fabricated, is done here. I was inside the plant that makes the backhoes and loaders several years ago, quite the operation.
If I buy another new tractor, it most likely will be a Kubota, they are not cheap, but are very nice machines.
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The Japanese companies have good technology and utilize innovative business models, quite unlike China. "Made in Japan" usually means quality while "made in China" likely means you are getting junk.
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we get in lots of genuine honda parts in genuine honda parts packageing with made in china stickers on them,  very seldom made in japan or assemalbed in japan.    most of the honda generators that we sell are assembaled in usa but will still have little stickers on the parts that say made in china you would think they would take the stickers off at the factory
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I thought Kubota was Korean?
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Someone was saying last week that Kubota was looking at John Deere




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Originally posted by JoeO(CMO) JoeO(CMO) wrote:

Someone was saying last week that Kubota was looking at John Deere

Boy if this happens it will crank-up them green guys real good! Big smileBig smile
All I hear out of them green boys is your AGCO is not really owned by the USA like John Deere is. 
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So I wonder if Gleaner is next for them? As they want a combine also. They want to be a full line company and a few years said it would happen! I have no good words for them today! With what they did to some of us dealers. We aren't a dealer for them anymore because of their actions
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This might be why Great Plains had been cleaning out their old stuff on Purple Wave for over six months.
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Originally posted by HudCo HudCo wrote:

we get in lots of genuine honda parts in genuine honda parts packageing with made in china stickers on them,  very seldom made in japan or assemalbed in japan.    most of the honda generators that we sell are assembaled in usa but will still have little stickers on the parts that say made in china you would think they would take the stickers off at the factory


My brother owns a few go kart tracks. The karts come in with Honda motors on them. When they're done (which happens a lot faster than you'd think) he goes to Harbor Freight and buys their $99.00 engine, swaps in the Honda crank and off they go. He's found 99% of the parts are interchangeable, with the Harbor Freight heads and valvetrain holding up better than Hondas, and the Honda cranks being better than Harbor Freight.
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I was told that Kubota's ag sales have passed AGCO now, this was from an AGCO rep.
A Kubota dealers rep says at his dealership the ag sales are 70% of total sales.
It seems to me that all Kubota dealers have been selling Landpride.
I wonder what the Landpride color options will be in the future...

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Kubota makes a great tractor.  I have one with a Landpride tiller and have used it pretty hard.  Not a single problem yet.
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I was told the higher horse power Kubota's are eating transmission & rear ends.

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I highly doubt Kubota could take over JD,, in 2014 they had 61.3 billion in assets,,,,, that's a lot of mooolah!
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Originally posted by JoeM(GA) JoeM(GA) wrote:

Don, bad as I hate to say it, probably half of what they build is done at factories here in Georgia, they have 4 or 5 huge plants here just North of Atlanta. I'm sure most little parts are still from Japan, but most any piece that is fabricated, is done here. I was inside the plant that makes the backhoes and loaders several years ago, quite the operation.
If I buy another new tractor, it most likely will be a Kubota, they are not cheap, but are very nice machines.

If you are getting a hydro, I advise you to take a really good look at the hydro-static drive/direction pedal. And compare it to John Deere, New Holland, and others that have two separate pedals, Kubota has a really weird pedal design that looks to me to be difficult to use and a couple others that I know that have used one say that it is a pain.

Other than that, I agree, they are very good/ nice machines.




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I have run two different Kubota tractors over the last 15 or so years. One is an L4310, the other an M6800. From the service I've seen from those two it would definitely take some convincing for me to change colors
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Distant neighbor has 60 horse Kubota said its fine for raking hay and light stuff. He figures heavy work would tear it up pretty quick.
We have a Great Plains drill cannt what for the day it leaves.

As far as I'm concerned it's a marriage of two misfits.
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Originally posted by Don(MO) Don(MO) wrote:

 
All I hear out of them green boys is your AGCO is not really owned by the USA like John Deere is. 
What? I thought AGCO was US based in GA?
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We bought a 90 hp track loader two years ago. Much nicer than the previous bobcat. Everyone in this area is going to kubota skid steers for their reliability. Their maintenance costs are much less than other brands. I have no complaints so far.
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I've got 2 older little kuboters, the old ones was built good, cheap to run, and easy to service.  I don't think I would buy anything new enough to have that tier 4 BS emissions on.  Lots of horror stories of tractors back at the dealer, can't figger out computer and emission problems, massive downtime and huge amounts of $$$ to fix...
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speaking of 'buyouts', The feds here have allowed Lowes to buy  RONA up here, sighing it won't deprive the Canadians of 'choice' of where to buy lumber and stuff.
What it DOES do is force us to send our money 'south of the 49th'. Rona was a Canadian based company out of Quebec, LOWES is USA of course, same as the 'orange' big box HD.

as for the Honda clones that HF and others sell, I buy a lot of them to repower stuff,they ARE well made ! A 9HP (270cc) unit will join to a real Honda reducer with precision !!

as for foot pedals, try before you buy !! I have a Craftsman rider and the 2 pedal fwd-rev is a PITA ,especially when wearing big shoes or winter boots !!

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Pick me a new Kubota- Which new 2wd Kubota tractor would be about the same as a 175 Allis? If you go by HP, the tractors weigh 2000 pounds less than a 175.
I too wonder if their tractors can do heavy tillage full time. It looks to me the 3pt hitches are not solidly attached to the tractor. Maybe ok for nominal conditions, snag a rock and see what happens.  Some of the Massey Fergusons look really beefy, and the engines rev lower.

Kubota just moved the US HQ to Texas, so there goes hundreds of jobs in turmoil.
However, I don't get the impression the Torrance CA people there were tractor experts, surfing, fer sure. Just importers managing the business. ANY questions talk to your local dealer. How much does a M5660 weigh, talk to the dealer. The local dealer may be an idiot, maybe not.
Landpride- I hope they don't radically change the culture, just slowly improve the   products and methods.
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Look at how many atv's are around today. Honda is a Japanese company and they are assembled over here. Several guys around me have kubotas and love them. I think I would rather have one than a French Deere, and atleast you will still be able to buy Great Plains parts I guess.
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i hope they do buy deere and paint them orange just think how pissed them juys will be driving a orange deere

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[QUOTE=BrianC]Pick me a new Kubota- Which new 2wd Kubota tractor would be about the same as a 175 Allis? If you go by HP, the tractors weigh 2000 pounds less than a 175.
I too wonder if their tractors can do heavy tillage full time. It looks to me the 3pt hitches are not solidly attached to the tractor. Maybe ok for nominal conditions, snag a rock and see what happens.  Some of the Massey Fergusons look really beefy, and the engines rev lower.

Can't compare a new Kubota to a 175 - it's like apples and oranges.  For an accurate comparison, you should be comparing it with other new 60 hp tractors - green, red, blue, etc.  I think they would all be pretty close in terms of weight and build quality.  I don't think ANY of the new tractors of this size are made for heavy tillage.
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would massey be a good choice vs Kubota? do new massey have anything similar to old ones from the 70,s and 80,s , where are they made? Thanks
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I just got a flyer for their new m7 series up to 170hp. Looks nice and the price will put some pressure on big red and green tractors. They need some healthy competition. And I bet a new deere has qbout the same or more asian parts as kubota
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

speaking of 'buyouts', The feds here have allowed Lowes to buy  RONA up here, sighing it won't deprive the Canadians of 'choice' of where to buy lumber and stuff.
What it DOES do is force us to send our money 'south of the 49th'. Rona was a Canadian based company out of Quebec, LOWES is USA of course, same as the 'orange' big box HD.

as for the Honda clones that HF and others sell, I buy a lot of them to repower stuff,they ARE well made ! A 9HP (270cc) unit will join to a real Honda reducer with precision !!

as for foot pedals, try before you buy !! I have a Craftsman rider and the 2 pedal fwd-rev is a PITA ,especially when wearing big shoes or winter boots !!

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I agree with that, I was talking about the ones on bigger 'compact' tractors. The ones that have the two pedals side by side.



 
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I have a Kubota M110 and have pulled an AC 3 bottom spinner plow for years with it.  Have about 2000 hours on it now.  Use it mostly for haying as I now have an 8030 for plowing and the old 7580 for the big disk and diskchisel.  Seriously looked at a new or almost new Kubota 30 hp for a mid mount mowing/utility tractor but ended up with a nice MF 1533 for a lot less money.
Farmtoybuilder, would you mind telling us what happened with your experience?  Haven't heard anything bad from dealers around here, in fact I'd guess there are more Kubota dealers in Colo then any other brand.
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