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Ryan Renko 
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Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 7:38pm |
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I was reading on another forum about the new Gleaner Super 7. One guy commented his combine was shelling around 4,200 bushel a hour. That means 70 bushel a minute or around alittle over a bushel a second!!!!! This post isnt just about the new Gleaner as other companies offer machines with similar performance. What would our grandparents or great grandparents think about these new monsters in the fields?? I still remember my great grandma with her long dress and babushka on shelling corn by hand!!! She and grandpa were straight from "old country". My times have changed. Ryan
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Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 7:41pm |
An acre every three minutes? I suppose it's possible. I wouldn't have thought it possible 40 years ago.
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Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 9:26pm |
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I don't think thats out of line. I'm not going to do the math, but on any of our half mile section farms, I think it was 1-1/2 rows at 36" wide, a half mile long was an acre. Our N7 with an 8 row head, was doing 4-6 MPH, meaning 10-15 minutes per half round, and each pass took between 5 and 6 acres, i.e. an acre every two minutes, and that's the older 7, I haven't been around since the R72 has been in use. I am sure the Super 7, is far superior to the N and the R.
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Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 9:34pm |
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Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 9:43pm |
Half mile throughs on 30" centers takes 7 and 1/2 rows to make an acre. Depending on how many end rows you put on. If put as many as we do now it would take more then that to get an acre to a through. Not to take anything away from the N7 ,it was a beast at the time. First 12 row head machine. But I dont think those figures add up
IG
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 7:05am |
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I can still remember a piece of a conversation my grandfather had with our neighbor out along the road one day while my dad was combining oats. It was probably 1982. Anyway. my grandfather told the neighbor that "Art would have a smile from ear to ear if he could see that combine work". Art was my grandmother's brother who had died in 1959 and had owned the farm before and with whom my grandfather farmed for quite a few years. Uncle Art had owned a 12A John Deere combine. The funny thing is that the combine that my grandfather thought would make him smile from ear to ear because of its incredible capacity and performance was a Gleaner E. I guess everything is relative.
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Ryan Renko
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 8:36am |
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I remember my dad thinking they all were in heaven when they got a new idea one row corn picker on the farm. Before that it was picked by hand. It is all relative as DanD said!!
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 8:57am |
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IG, you are right on half mile rows per acre. We estimate 5.5 rows on 38 inch spacings half mile long to be an acre.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 9:26am |
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200 bu corn 12 row head 10.5 miles per hour no time to turn on end good corn head and super driver ??? G with 430 head 25000 bu in 5 days twice the first year I had it! Sure beat an E with 240 head.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 9:45am |
 Ryan Renko wrote:
I remember my dad thinking they all were in heaven when they got a new idea one row corn picker on the farm. Before that it was picked by hand. It is all relative as DanD said!! |
i too was glad to see the first picker that the family bought it was a mounted 1 row ford, picking into flat bed wagons with 24 inch side bords and gates, it was my job and my brothers to keep the wagons unloaded with a scoop into the cribs windows . we could keep up with the ford and keep a empty wagon hooked behind the farmall c, back at the picker by the time it was done with the next wagon load
then we moved up to a mounted 2 row picker on a 620 john deere, and we could not keep up, unless we where picking rigth beside the crib.
the next great purchase was a elevator no longer had to throw the corn, over our heads this saved time, we would pull the wagon in place and unhook then hook the c to the elevator, and just scoop the corn into the elevator. then one summer day a truck pulled up with the first gravity feed wagons i had ever seen,
hooray no more scoop!!! jush turn the wheel and watch the corn fall out
i can only look with amasement at the equipment used today, and know that my grandad would faint if i told him i had spent that much money
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 1:53pm |
ILGLEANER wrote:
Half mile throughs on 30" centers takes 7 and 1/2 rows to make an acre. Depending on how many end rows you put on. If put as many as we do now it would take more then that to get an acre to a through. Not to take anything away from the N7 ,it was a beast at the time. First 12 row head machine. But I dont think those figures add up
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So what you are really saying is......I should have done the math!?!? :-)
Thanks for the correctiion
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 6:49pm |
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I know there are all different, but on average how many bushel does a tractor trailer hold?? I'm still thinking at 4,200 bushel a hour harvested how that would relate. Ryan
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 9:33pm |
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I want to say our 72 model think it was a 42' tandem axle, would hold right at 500 bushel per comparment, one front, one rear. The newer ones hold more, and if they have an extra axle, can be plated, or permited for more.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 9:45pm |
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The company that we contract most of our grain through hauls 1800 bu. in each load.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 9:54pm |
If you have 1000 bu on a hopper bottom around here you are about legal. You need alot of trucks...lol Orangeblood I was just trying to not be a smart .
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 9:55pm |
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Two years ago when I was helping my brother in SD with his harvest, I was running the cart with scale to load out the trucks.....64,000 lbs per semi load when the scales were open, 70,000 plus when they weren't :)
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Posted: 15 Nov 2011 at 6:41am |
Hey IL, I giving you a hard time, but clearly I wanted that 7 to be more of a monster than it was! :-) Anyway Here's a good story for y'all.
One year my uncle decided to raise popcorn, and late one night we worked really late trying to get out the last 40 acres of it, well it seems that nobody informed grandpa, that popcorn is a bit more dense in the truck. Well he loaded that trailer level full to the rails, (that's what we did at night, since the next morning we would be up before them law boys) Anyway, I don't rememver what dad said it scaled at, but it was well over 100K, I remember him telling me, he knew something was wrong, when the 425hp 3406 cat with a 10speed and deep reduction had a hard time with it in low 2. The ground was a little soft, but it wasn't disked, I guess he left 4" ruts out to the road. After that we didn't harvest anymore popcorn! :-)
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Posted: 15 Nov 2011 at 11:23pm |
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The last field we combined this year was 160 A. My brother runs the combine with the twelve row head, he plants witha 24 row planter, two rounds of end rows, by the time he combines the end rows off your are about a third done, then my nephew pulls in with his combine with a 8 row head, we had 6 semis hauling away and 4 grain carts pulling from the combines, took about 8 hours to combine that 160 A. We were done for the year!!!!
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 5:46am |
victoryallis wrote:
The company that we contract most of our grain through hauls 1800 bu. in each load. |
I'd like to see that rig. How many axles under it? An old friend of my Dad told me once, he thought he had it made when he bought a new 40 All Crop and could combine oats by himself instead of having to cut and bind them and come back with a crew and threshing machine. I think he said he did good to put up a couple acres a day by himself.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 7:22am |
victoryallis wrote:
The company that we contract most of our grain through hauls 1800 bu. in each load. |
I don't know where you live but between the 100,800 pounds of grain and the weight of the truck, I'd have to give about three months pay to the courts if the weighmaster caught me.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 6:54pm |
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Kinda interesting story. We had a old bachelor farmer that owned ground next to our farm here in southern Illinois. I know for a fact that the field across from his home was every bit of 100 acres and he would combine the whole thing with a 72 AllCrop!! He parked his small grain truck at the end of the field and when he filled it up, he would shut the tractor off and drive to the local grain elevator. Then return and start all over again. No hired help or anything. He passed away about 15 years ago and the local big time operator bought the ground. Every fall they have two of big green combines in that same field with several semis hauling grain. I wonder how that old guy did that field all by himself!!!! Ryan
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 7:51pm |
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Ryan he did it one trip through the field at a time,and didn't worry about making a speed record. That's just the way we used to do it. They say patience is a virtue, and we must have been virtuous. Another thing most of our corn cribs held about 5000 bushels,and we 'd shell out one side in the morning,maybe reset the drags to the second side at noon or just after,and finish about 4-5:00 o'clock in time to get home and do chores! The next day we would be at somebody else's house. The wives had an ongoing contest of trying to make the best dinners in the circuit. It was unheard of not to feed your help back then!!!!1
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Posted: 17 Nov 2011 at 7:04am |
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I know what mine would say. (What the heII did you do with my horses.) LOL
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Posted: 17 Nov 2011 at 8:37am |
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My grandfather told me about wheat harvest during the depression. One farmer in the area owned a thresher and would custom thresh for the other farmers. He paid my grandfather to bring the bundles to the thresher with two horses and a wagon. I can't remember the exact amount, but he was paid something like a dollar a day for the horses and wagon and a dollar for his labor.
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Posted: 17 Nov 2011 at 5:26pm |
I noticed a recent AGCO Super7 gleaner advertisement in the FarmWorld newspaper about the competition eating more than their mouths could chew. Seems the green & red combines have a wider throat then inlet to their rotor. Gleaner's is about matched for size around 39". I don't know if any of that holds water?? A 12 row cornhead is going to need a higher capacity on the feeder house to get corn to the rotor. The older 60's gleaner E had a 27" cylinder that could shell corn as fast as it could take it. That has always amazed me! My newer 78' K2 gleaner has the same 27" cylinder. It can shell 3 30" rows at 3 mph in 250 bushel corn all day. But, its hard pressed to get it from the sieve to the graintank that fast.... so I gotta slow it down to keep corn from running out the back. Its good to know that the Gleaner combine is still impressive in farming today....
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Posted: 17 Nov 2011 at 6:18pm |
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I need to look into or see specs on these new clean grain elevators that can bring up over a bushel a second!!! I couldnt add that many lil buckets to the allcrop chain!! LOL
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Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 9:33pm |
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wjohn,you bring tears to my eyes,spent many hours behind a mcormic binder shocking wheat and oats.then came the big case thresher powered by a john deere d....still remember them well...
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Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 10:17pm |
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100,800lbs? was wondering what they could haul in some of the trailers I was seeing in the truck paper 50ft triaxle, doubles or superBs. Probably about 40,000 worth of truck and trailer just guessing. Really doesn't seem like that much with the right amount of axles. What weight can they haul in michigan with axles front to rear?
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Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 2:09pm |
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I had a local guy haul 1 load for me this year, my normal haulers were busy that morning. We had combine and 2 grain carts full. it usually takes the R62 (around 250-300 bushels?) and the big grain cart (750 bushels) and a small amount from the small cart (400-450 bu). My cousin filled the guys truck with what we put in the other trucks. The driver said to fill it up! Cousin kept dumping til it was full. Emptied almost everything. Trucking bill came in, load was 1350+ wet bushels.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 3:23pm |
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They would probably think that there is no need to have any machines that big they would want to bring back the A II Gleaners and I'm sure they would wonder what happened to all the neighbors out in the country nothing but bare fields, center pivots, and semi's running you off the roads during harvest.
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