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    Posted: 17 Jul 2012 at 7:14pm
bought me an old tractor. but need help to identify it and the engine so I can get parts for it. chassis eb4764 engine r15060k

Edited by iwik - 17 Jul 2012 at 7:16pm
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iwik  could used a little more info
like make model but will give you
a guess ed40  here is a site to help
other will help if you provide more
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 http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors
/003/9/9/3996-allis-chalmers-ed40-engine.html

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allis chalmers EB would guess 1945-1955?
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mite be a b   1952

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors
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B Serial Numbers:

Location:On top of transmission case, behind shift lever. English-built models have an 'EB' serial number.
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1951: 4001 (EB)
1952: 6861 (EB)
so mine most be a 1951
now i need to identify the engine
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i think that they only used 3
different engine in the b tractor

Waukesha  Original engine,
used in 1937 on the first 96 tractors built

Allis-Chalmers BE vertical I-head
Second engine, used until 1943, SN 64500

Allis-Chalmers CE
Final engine, used from 1943 on, SN 64501


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i don't think its a original engine.
engine number is R15060K
 
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can you post a picture of it
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Originally posted by Dnoym N. S. Can. Dnoym N. S. Can. wrote:

i think that they only used 3
different engine in the b tractor

Waukesha  Original engine,
used in 1937 on the first 96 tractors built

Allis-Chalmers BE vertical I-head
Second engine, used until 1943, SN 64500

Allis-Chalmers CE
Final engine, used from 1943 on, SN 64501


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Basically the same engine was used in an RC with an R in front of the numbers instead of the BE or CE. The R may have also been used in a power unit??????????
http://www.ae-ta.com
Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF
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I believe that would be the serial number of a 'B' assembled in the UK
 
an English B
 
Perhaps the UK guys will chime in ( when they get up !! )
 
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My book on the model "B" engine specifications-" 3.375" bore on British built tractors".
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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

Basically the same engine was used in an RC with an R in front of the numbers instead of the BE or CE. The R may have also been used in a power unit??????????
The R prefix is found on the 60H power units as on the RC. Later 60H models had a CR engine prefix.

Edited by mdtractormechanic - 18 Jul 2012 at 9:41am
Joe's 1939 Model WC, 1940 Model RC, 1944 & 1950 Model C's, B-125 PU
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English B 1950, first EB was EB4001 in November 1950, R motor is an english power unit from a combine or baler
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Also low compression kerosene pistons and manifold, but then all EBs were, there never was a gas burner, MOST parts are interchangeable with the US bs, but not all, such as the clutch and release assembly and front wheel hubs and bearings. the whole assembly has to be changed, not just parts......been there               got the T shirt.......
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Anyone ever opened up the British "B's" to confirm the 3.375" bore??????? Standard bore at 3.250", correct??
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English EB bores are the same as the US CE motor, its all interchangeable 3-3/8
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Originally posted by Chris/CT Chris/CT wrote:

Anyone ever opened up the British "B's" to confirm the 3.375" bore??????? Standard bore at 3.250", correct??
3.25 is the BE (116) engine used till about mid 1942.

Edited by mdtractormechanic - 19 Jul 2012 at 1:39pm
Joe's 1939 Model WC, 1940 Model RC, 1944 & 1950 Model C's, B-125 PU
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