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JimIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Castalia Iowa Points: 1983 |
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Reminds me when Gilbert Vust would refer to the "Oklahoma Ratchet". It was a Crescent wrench. ![]() |
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An open eye is much more observant than an open mouth
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littlemarv ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jun 2013 Location: Wisconsin Points: 1829 |
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My entire life I was told to "Go get the green handled pump pliers".
I think I was in high school before I heard the brand Channel Locks. |
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The mechanic always wins.
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Me too!
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littlemarv ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jun 2013 Location: Wisconsin Points: 1829 |
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Never having run a combine, exactly what happens when you plug the cylinder on an All Crop? Does the belt smoke, or is there a slip clutch, or snub the tractor?
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The mechanic always wins.
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Sometimes a clutch will slip on the PTO driveline, but usually it stalls the tractor.
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nella(Pa) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Allentown, Pa. Points: 3114 |
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[QUOTE=WD45]The rod - short one was used to turn the cylinder over when one plugged the cylinder. You opened the side door behind the cylinder and pulled as much straw out of the cylinder while turning the cylinder back and forth until the cylinder was freed up.[/QUOTE
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shameless (ne) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jul 2016 Location: nebraska Points: 7463 |
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and it was a nasty job when it was HOT!
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Worse than being under a Gleaner on a hot day getting covered in all the dust/straw/chaff as it falls on you?
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12016 |
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I'd never heard "Stillson wrench" before either. Google / wiki is awesome! lol Monkey wrench is like a pipe wrench, but smooth jaws instead of serrated. At least that's the way it was in Grandpa's workshop in MI. Harrow, well, we had a bunch of old operator manuals or books on various things we had. The books titled like "disc harrow" "spike harrow" "spring tooth harrow". Seems anything that moves dirt without rolling it all the way must be a harrow....'cept a cultivator? In Canada, they have heavy harrows, light harrows.... This conversation is a harrowing experience ![]() Edited by Tbone95 - 15 Nov 2016 at 6:39am |
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DennisA (IL) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Is that 2nd pic on an early 66 or a 60? My 60A's don't have any kind of loop for the hook.
I figured that slug bar would be longer! Give you more leverage! The one I have (In case I ever have to use it) is about 5' long, and and inch in diameter that tapers on the end, to fit in the cylinder shaft hole. Needless to say, it's not Allis!
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DennisA (IL) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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The combine in the picture is a 60A. Parts book says prior to S/N 69101. I have yet to plug one so not sure how much pressure is needed to turn backwards. |
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Ask anybody that ran a pull type at Hutch in 2015! I think I was the only one who never slugged, but I could be wrong.
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DennisA (IL) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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Was it wet last year?
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Auntwayne ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Location: Edwardsville Il Points: 1589 |
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Creston.......there is a (cough,cough) slip clutch, (cough). Dennis my man, I have been wondering ever since you posted the pictures, and since I am around Allcrops everyday
, where were the tools stored on the combine ? Ryan searched the machine shed tonight looking for the slugger bars. The hood hook had to store on the combine as well ? I remembered the slug bar on the "E" being mounted on the side of the elevator
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Dad always said," If you have one boy, you have a man. If you have two boys, you have two boys". "ALLIS EXPRESS"
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DennisA (IL) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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They just sat on top of the cylinder housing behind tailings spout.
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DanWi ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: wttn Points: 1903 |
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Long time ago when my grandfather combined with his 66 we used the long rod to poke the bridged oats out of the hopper.
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Nothing held them down? Also...off topic, but while we're talking about mystery objects...do your combines have those 2 angle iron brackets on top of the separator? One is about 7" long, and the other almost as long as the width of the separator. Mine have them, and I saw a couple at Hutch too, but no one knows what they're for!
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Yes. I believe there was a half inch of rain one of the nights of the show, but we could still get in the field, so the show went on! The grain was so soft, it barely had any crunch when you bit it.
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DennisA (IL) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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CrestonM wrote: Nothing held them down? Just gravity Creston.
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Auntwayne ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Location: Edwardsville Il Points: 1589 |
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Dennis, there is no way in the world that Allis engineers did not devise a storage place for these two metal tools. I can bet the farm that customers were not told to just toss them
on top of the cylinder cover and hope that you do not ever hit a ground hog hole or large wash out.
Two long pieces of metal riding "loose" so that either one or both would run through the cylinder. Ryan and myself had just enough time tonight to look over the 66 for possible lock downs, nothing. There has to be some info or brochure out there. Saying that, I am surprised that I have never seen either tool on a used Allcrop ????
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Dad always said," If you have one boy, you have a man. If you have two boys, you have two boys". "ALLIS EXPRESS"
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shameless (ne) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jul 2016 Location: nebraska Points: 7463 |
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that's the same place ours was stored too....nothing to hold them there cept their own weight. never had either one ever bounce out
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Auntwayne ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Location: Edwardsville Il Points: 1589 |
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I just have a very hard time with the dealer or who ever saying "here are some extra tools that you will need, just throw them up there". Maybe that is why no one has ever seen the (mystery tools) again.
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Dad always said," If you have one boy, you have a man. If you have two boys, you have two boys". "ALLIS EXPRESS"
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WD45 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: STAYNER,ONTARIO Points: 954 |
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Those tools set were placed above the cylinder and never fell out on our combine. My sister and I would sit on the deck with our feet sitting over the cylinder were these tools set and we would ride by the hour watching the grain coming up the canvas on the 60 then 66.
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Auntwayne ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Location: Edwardsville Il Points: 1589 |
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Can not believe that any one else would be crazy/foolish enough to sit up there. I did it for several hours filming Ryan's restored 72. Thank god OSHA wasn't around.
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Dad always said," If you have one boy, you have a man. If you have two boys, you have two boys". "ALLIS EXPRESS"
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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I'd be scared doing that, knowing one chuck hole could throw me onto the canvas! Yikes!!
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DennisA (IL) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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They will not fall out. That part of the housing is curved back towards the walker area and there is angle iron on the front side so they can't go forward. I pulled All-Crops down the road at around 50 mph (when I have a clear line of sight) and a combines will bounce a lot but the tools just ride with the machine. The combine does not bounce as bad when in the field. I can't say that I ever hit a hole in the field yet but I have hit bumps in the road that made the unload auger unhook and swing down and the tools all made it home.
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Yep...that surprised me the first time it happened!
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DennisA (IL) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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The first thing I do after hitching the combine behind the truck is tie up the auger.
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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I guess they're the ones with wheel bearings?
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