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BTW, if I was looking for a souped up, eco friendly go cart to replace a bigger ride, it would be a sub compact running on bio-diesel. About 70 to 80 mpg.....and still works like a car.
The more I hear about electric vehicles, the idea comes to me if the fleet were now electric and a gas or diesel vehicle was being proposed, the market would flip to G or D in a heartbeat. That suggests to me the electric vehicles are not a better mousetrap. Quite the opposite in fact.
So something else is going on. Pretty much know what it is, but hard to fathom the general public will be willing to go along with having this rammed down their throats for no good reason.
The time to make the switch is when the technology arrives to make it the better choice. We are not there yet.
no good reason
The dictator behind the king's thrown has lots of reasons.
But I guess more for the pollical page.
Yes the more one thinks about the electric car the poorer and poorer it looks.
Miller...does that cab over Chevy come with the side ramp like the old Corvair cab over pickups did? that is kinda a unique looking truck. GM has the cab over 1 tons already with the iszuzu motor in it. years ago all the main vehicle companies made cab over pickups. i always kinda liked them. i guess...cuz they are different than other vehicles.
Daves photo was an artist "drawing" of one possible design he was promoting... The actual truck design "so far" is a more standard design. It was slated to be built in 2024.. Now chevy is saying they are moving it up... but not date set yet. The HUMMER is the first GMC electric truck to be introduced end of 2021... So Chevy will be 2022 ( possibly).. this is the CHEVY as of Dec 2020.
This is the electric GMC Hummer that will come out end of 2021 for a 2022 model... It would be safe to assume the Chevy which follows in a year or two would be 90% the same truck with some minor body / bumper changes.
It ain't cheap to go green. And it won't be for some time to come. If they want the masses to buy it then they better make it cheaper than what's being sold now.
They do not want masses buying anything, they just want control. Will be afoot well before anything becomes affordable or really functionally available.
Fossil Plants retiring at phenomenal rates, CNG Nat Gas power is going to become so expensive as to Not be affordable due to NO Fracking laws, Wind and Solar are Supplemental and mean SQUAT as to recharging these machines in any volume so are defined Between the Rock and Hard Place as the idiocy of Washout DC plays their games.
Self feeding program as fuels prices rise, fuels consumption decreases, must add MORE taxes to derive more revenues so fuels Rise again only to see curtailed usage at a higher level. Buyers of 'Alternative' energy machines do not pay Roads fuels taxes instead paying a Alternate Fuel Surcharge Tax for a W/S Tax Stamp so can use any purchase source for their fuels supply(IE Electricity or LP or CNG ETC). Tax on the Farm truck on LP was $102.00 per year, could buy Propane on second fill at $.93/gal. So Alt. fuels tax did not even equate to miles nor fuel quantity used. MO is considering a Road Miles tax on cars using Alternate Fuels where I believe IL already has done so.
Was speaking to a REA group that is looking at this in a near county. Neighborhoods will have to have Grid updates, Distribution transformers updated, lines sizing updated, sub stations updated, Transmission to Substation systems updated, potentially MORE substations added to handle extra load. REA is looking at DOUBLE their annual expenses in First Year of new services, second year may double that again doubling or tripling the delivered energy price, from $.095/kwh to $.225- potentially $.385. Will barely be able to afford to live in ANY Structure paying those bills. Propane is already noted to be rising here.
years ago when diesel vehicles started getting popular, our state would put a added tax on when licensing the vehicle. they claim it would help with revenue loss because the diesels so said would get better mileage than gassers. so when going in to get your license plates or re-registration, you had to lie about or didn't mention anything about diesel power! now i think it's an automatic tac on no matter what the fuel type is.
This is a great idea! Electric cars are our future! At the moment, a lot of people have begun to change their cars to hybrid ones, as this is less harmful to the environment and, in general, is much more economical to use. Tesla is one of the best representatives of new cars powered by electricity. I myself am the owner of a Tesla Model 3 and I am insanely happy. For long journeys and camping I cannot find a better car. The modernized driving system that allows you to rest and at the same time constantly move helps to overcome long distances and a short period of time. Quite recently, on the recommendation of the service at https://graydonschwartz.com/teslafi-vs-teslastics/, I bought myself a mattress for my Tesla and it practically became my new home.
Probably very soon people will completely abandon gasoline and diesel engines. I think it's even good that people are striving for “an all-electric future”. I am also glad that many great services have appeared, such as simplyswitch.com, which make good discounts on electricity. Energy suppliers offer a whole variety of gifts and incentives for choosing their energy deals. My husband has been using these services for a long time, I like it too. He said that he had not seen a better offer anywhere else.
pro electric keep forgetting unintended consequences, China owns/controls major portion of rare earth resources,(lithium, cadmium, ect.) Will EPA allow reprocessing of electric car batteries? Check out current regs. for lead batteries. Emergency services already getting extra training to deal with cutting accident victems out of electric and hybird cars. Added 'burb sprawl caused by new charging stations, expensive transformers and infrastructure for said charging stations. As my grandmother said "the road to he-- is paved with good intentions".
New York (CNN Business)Lordstown Motors, the startup electric truck maker, warned Tuesday it is close to running out of cash and may be forced out of business in the next year.
The news, which sent Lordstown shares down about 20% in midday trading Wednesday, is a blow to not only the company but also to the gritty industrial town from which it gets its name. For 53 years, Lordstown, Ohio, was home to a massive General Motors plant, which GM closed in 2019.
The car giant sold the 6.2 million square foot factory, nearly twice the size of the Pentagon, later that year to start-up Lordstown Motors, which promised to pay union-level wages to workers to build its Endurance pickup truck. It is due to start production of that truck in September. Lordstown currently has about 600 employees.
But Tuesday the startup said it no longer has enough money to start commercial production. It warned there is now "substantial doubt" about its ability to stay in business over the course of the next 12 months.
The company filing said it had $259.7 million in cash on hand as of March 31, after posting a net loss of $125.2 million over the previous three months.
It said it's ability to stay in business "is dependent on its ability to complete the development of its electric vehicles, obtain regulatory approval, begin commercial scale production and launch the sale of such vehicles." It is seeking additional financing.
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After reading the article, Lordstown Motors is a startup that leaped right into the pickup market with what appears to be a unique design of using hub motors.
Most startups begin small and grow their companies. These folks are trying to compete with giants right out of the gate.
Good luck to them.
Don't confuse my personality with my attitude. My personality is who I am. My attitude depends on who you are.
Brian be careful what you wish for. Your state is on par with mine for craziness. Mine back in 02 already came up with a solution to the monopoly. A coop company with NO GENERATION or DISTRABUTION LINES but it gets to use the old monopoly companies equipment. Of course it is a green company so if you wish you power is ALL GREEN energy, even though it comes in on the same wires as any other energy. And of course green costs a bit more.
No idea who is in control of coop, my best guess crocked politicians. Your local government (city, or county) signs your area up for it, and you get to do paperwork to get yourself out.
So now we get to pick which monopoly gets our money.
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you power is ALL GREEN energy, 