GM Electric Cars

Don't know if it's common knowledge but....

It takes a LOT less people to build electric cars than gas ones ! MILLIONS of jobs LOST, not just $$assembly line at GM but parts suppliers...

good news , more gas/cheaper price for those of us with 'old skool' rides !

3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

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Just out of curiosity, has anyone asked GM where THEY think the electric power will come from to power all these cars?

FREEDGUY wrote:

And low and behold there was a post/topic in the( Dead

) political section about this VERY scenario happening, yet it was laughed at and deemed LUDICRIS Ouch

??

Carefully read what modirt and DMiller said and then try the claim its not ludicrous.

You meant the word ,not the rapper, correct????

2-8050 1-7080 6080 D-19 modelE & A 7040 R50

Next step is states gotta come up with a way to pay for roads. Fuel taxes no longer being collected. Probably will have to pay by the mile driven.......but mile driven where? In state? Out of state? Get a toll bill in the mail? GPS in your care rats you out? Calls home to momma......errrr......Big Brother.

And if tax per mile goes up, and I stop driving at all? Whose gonna fill them shoes?

can you imagine the electical service a housing development would need if say 50 to 75 homes had 2 electric cars setting on a chager every night.

re: can you imagine the electical service a housing development would need if say 50 to 75 homes had 2 electric cars setting on a chager every night.

no need to imagine..easy arithmetic,grade5 level ??

...EACH house requires a 400A service, 200A for the house, 100A for EACH e-car.

200A (for e-cars) x 50 homes = 10,000 Amps

10,000 Amp x 240 Volts = 2.4MW.

That's 2.4 MEGAWATTS capacity for that subvision.

As to ACTUAL power used, that'll depend on time of day, battery level, etc. BUT the 'grid' must be built to 'have the ability' to supply that obscene amount of power 24/7.

Just remember this is but one small subdivision,in one city.....

3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water

I wonder what road salt will do to all the electrical junk. Also, the heater will have to be electric since no antifreeze, that should drain the batteries in a hurry I would think. Up North you need a good heater when it's -20.

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Tow trucks will be busy. Herb(GA)

Can see them in Temperate climes NOT high heat as that zaps batteries nor extreme cold or road treatments use as that is just as destructive. Good luck to those that buy and use them, I will not unless forced to.

Have to have battery heaters so the cold don't drain them

World's first EV power-saving cabin heater
A heat-pump cabin heater has been adopted for heating an electric vehicle (EV), using less power than conventional models. It greatly improves power consumption when the heater is being used. Nissan LEAF is the first mass-produced vehicle in the world to employ a heat-pump cabin heater.

Technology Functionality
Gasoline vehicles re-use engine exhaust heat to provide the warm air for the functions of the heater. An EV, however, does not have this heat source to recycle and so uses its general power for cabin heating.

Conventional air-conditioning systems used an electrical heater, but since the use of the heater directly relates to power consumption, actual driving range was significantly reduced.

A heat-pump system, meanwhile, heats the cabin using the temperature difference between a refrigerant and the outside air, obtaining a heating effect other than consuming electricity, and making it possible to heat the car cabin with less power than conventionally.

Technology Configuration
When the heater is in use, the external capacitor absorbs heat from the atmosphere [1] and then compresses it into high-temperature heat [2]. The cold air in the cabin is heated [3] and hot air is blown into the cabin out of the air-conditioning grille [4]. After the heat decompresses to a low temperature, it is released out of the car [5].

In the summer, heat is absorbed from inside the cabin and released outside by the external capacitor, functioning as a cooling and heating system.

A heat-pump is unique in that with one refrigerant circuit it can be used for both cooling and heating, with the heat from the outside air being transferable to the cabin just by the power consumption of the pump.

A more efficient air-conditioning system is achieved through optimization of the heat exchanger design that implements low power consumption, along with heating and cooling according to set temperatures, and temperature control when switching between cooler and heater that optimally adjust the compressor rotation.

Edited by steve(ill) - 02 Feb 2021 at 3:50pm

Like them all, but love the "B"s.

I know most electric heaters draw a lot of juice, and if the vehicle has to sit outside all day or night in subzero temps they take a long time to warm up the cabin. They must assume that the vehicle will be always parked indoors? Maybe they have a trick I don't know about to produce heat. If any of you have a manifold heater on your diesel Allis engine you know what I mean about power draw, you can watch it drain the battery on the meter and that is only heating a small space.

'49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2

i kept seeing commercials about the new GMC electric full size pickup...but now they have stopped, don't see the commercials anymore.

wow... a 4 door version of the Willys FC-170 !!

I'd still rather have an FC-150 ( short bed version of the Forward Cab 170) though !!!

3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water

In MO with "Other" fuels sources they have a "Alternate Fuels Road Tax" and depends on Daily Driver or Limited Use. My LP Farm Truck was $100 Fuel tax Permit up front with License, had a W/S Sticker so could buy fuel otherwise NO SALE. Electric Cars will require similar 'Alternate Fuels' tax stamp and Receipt.

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