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nick121 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2016 Location: ontario Points: 322 |
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Having problems with the F2 header.. There is a k gleaner with flex head nearby I might take look. How high is the auger compared to a F2? My F2 is a hydraulic auger and pretty low.. I have to hold it up a bit to fill the big wagon(400) bushel.
The K is probably too short? Nick
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victoryallis ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2878 |
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If we parked just right we could dump into Unverferth 325 but it was close.
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Johnwilson_osf ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: Mount Bethel PA Points: 941 |
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For my F2 I set up a ramp to run my auger side tires on to raise the auger to get into a neighbors truck. The K2 we had would have needed a step stool compared to the F2.
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8623 |
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on the F2,there is a stop welded in place to position auger when unloading. Weld a new stop ahead of original. I wouldn't go more than 6in or so in difference at end or your u-joint won't like it.
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Jordan(OH) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Celina, OH Points: 1564 |
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Just put a donut or 2 on the cylinder
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AC7060IL ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3532 |
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K gleaner is a manual swing out & lock it type unloader auger. If it is setup with 18.4-26 drive tires, it'll reach over a 8.5'-9.0' tall sides of wagon (most older 200-300 bu wagons). If 16.9-26 tires, then a little less height.
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8455 |
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Either park the truck in a ditch or a make a hill for the combine!
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victoryallis ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2878 |
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Yup real practical if your spread out over 20-30 fields. |
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8455 |
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Don't your fields have terraces? I've used those to get better clearance.
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ACman 220 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 2017 Location: central il Points: 36 |
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12170 |
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Well, when you have no choice but to make do, you make do. On either combine, wouldn't it be fairly simple to add an extension on to the unload auger so it reached a little farther and higher?
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8455 |
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Yowch.... Even Shameless wouldn't poke with a stick that sharp! ![]() But yeah...farmers are great at finding ways to make do. I knew an old guy once that back in the 40s had a new Farmall M, and the muffler was too tall for his barn door, so he just dug a depression in his dirt floor in the right spot, so when the narrow front end dipped in the hole, the muffler cleared the door! ACman 220...I hope your day gets better. Sounds like it's off to a rough start.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12170 |
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Point made......but how many people with 20-30 fields would be looking for a Gleaner K at this point?
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Jordan(OH) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Celina, OH Points: 1564 |
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Many areas of the country don't have terraced fields.
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29816 |
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Get rid of the wagon and buy a single axle truck. It'll reach that just fine and be much faster than the wagon even if you can only haul 260 bu. at a time vs 400. You can get a descent truck for the cost of an average older gravity box.
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nick121 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2016 Location: ontario Points: 322 |
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Trucks are too expensive to insure here in ontario.. I have a limited budget and The wagons work good. I have a 400 and a 200 in a pair.. Maybe for corn It would be slow but works great for beans.. only problem is the tractor doesnt seem to go faster than 12-13mph
As for the combine It was sold.. but found a Gleaner F2 long walker and hydraulic auger, 292 gas engine.. It would be nice to have 2 of the same machine to switch heads and what not. Is a Gas combine that bad to run? I always hear negative thoughts on them and how much gas they use but for my small amount It would probably be insignificant.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12170 |
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Then you have another engine to take care of, battery to keep charged, etc.
Lot's of choices to be made.
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nick121 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2016 Location: ontario Points: 322 |
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yes that is right.. I'm going to fix the other header too, Just seems like I'm broke down during the best weather so if I had 2 running machines I can keep going. I need to do better pre season maintenance so I minimize breakdowns I could have prevented.
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8623 |
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yep it sucks spending all the time it takes to fix all the little things after harvest so it's ready for next year,but next fall I'm glad I did...
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8455 |
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Nothing wrong with a backup machine. Even if you do good maintenance, freak break downs can still happen. The PO of my Super 100 used it a mere 10 years before getting a Gleaner E. He kept the 100 as a backup though, and did need it occasionally. |
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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if I flipped the spout up I could unload into a semi grain trailer (flat ground), my unload auger was also a manual fold type.
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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Nick...after we broke down on a Saturday evening one year, and nothing/nowhere to get parts the next day, we bought the little "K" I still have. bought it for a backup machine in case a breakdown happened again in years to come. and it did happen again, and that little K was a crop saver since we did have that problem in later years a couple times. one time we were able to finish up the next day with the backup machine just before a blizzard hit! it didn't always sit idle, even when harvesting with our bigger machine. several time when the dew set in in the evenings and stayed until late mornings, we could harvest corn with the big machine, and still harvest beans with the K when the dew was off, not having to change heads all the time. worked real well! and after seeing what we were doing by some of the neighbors, they too now have backup machines for "just in case"! the big green farmers don't have them, but they should...would sure beat waiting for the dealer to come re-program their combines when the computers take a dump! which has happened a lot this year by the 2 closest ones here! one lost a whole good day of harvesting because of that!
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nick121 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2016 Location: ontario Points: 322 |
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yes I really am a big fan of having a backup or second machine.. Hate putting such a large amount of money into a crop and not getting it off.
This F2 i'm going to look at would be great since the heads will fit both. Only thing is it's a gas compared to my cylinder diesel... Can't be that bad though?
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12170 |
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You commented about the fuel efficiency of gas versus diesel above, and indicated you didn't think you had enough acres to be too worried about it. I'm paraphrasing, so don't shoot! So if we take that at face value, the economy isn't enough to worry about. One thing I'd think over if I was you is what does storing the combine with the old gas in it, and or having gas around to put in it, mean to you? Gasoline these days doesn't keep for crap it seems. Will you be using the machine often enough and long enough to turn over the fuel in the tank or is the gas going to get old? Is your carb going to varnish? Will it be the backup or the main one? Do you want to fart around with Stabyl or whatever to help with the gasoline situation?
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nick121 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2016 Location: ontario Points: 322 |
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good point.. didn't really think about that too much. The gas sucks now a days with the ethanol in it. I will take that into consideration. Would probably put stabilizer in it at the need of the season or something. I would much rather have the diesel to be honest. If I can get my header working might wait and see what comes up. Just annoying to be broke down, Last year it was the straw walkers went out right at the perfect harvest window.
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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nothing wrong with gas combines, I've had 5 of them thru the years. they do the same thing as the diesels do. some got good GPH, and some didn't do as good. on my 2 "G" combines, the V-8 got better GPH running than the 6 cyl one did. both ran the same heads. and we now have a lot of stations selling non ethanol gas at the pumps. I had a 100 gal tank with 12V pump in the back of my pickup for the combines. when done combining the remainder of the gas went to the lawn mowers.
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Michael V (NM) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NM Points: 2469 |
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yow AC220man,,,you was little harsh on my okie buddie there,,, I was gonna suggest a block to drive the left combine wheel on,, and/or park the wagon in a low spot,,,but since you have the better ideas,,,I wont say anything....
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Ray54 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4731 |
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Finally the plus sides of farming steep sidehill land,you have a machine you can tilt. Filled many a grain trailer with extensions when we cut safflower.Lean them over to make sure the auger dose not hit.
As well as moving the header over a inch at a time by leaning it over to fit in all the little gates the ciydots had to put in to look pretty.
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8455 |
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Thanks, Michael! Glad I'm not the only one that thought that.
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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how much is saving a crop worth compared to a few extra dollars in fuel?
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