Gleaner k unloading auger height?
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Topic: Gleaner k unloading auger height?
Posted By: nick121
Subject: Gleaner k unloading auger height?
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 9:04am
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Having problems with the F2 header.. There is a k gleaner with flex head nearby I might take look. How high is the auger compared to a F2? My F2 is a hydraulic auger and pretty low.. I have to hold it up a bit to fill the big wagon(400) bushel. The K is probably too short? Nick
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 10:32am
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If we parked just right we could dump into Unverferth 325 but it was close. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Johnwilson_osf
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 11:18am
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For my F2 I set up a ramp to run my auger side tires on to raise the auger to get into a neighbors truck. The K2 we had would have needed a step stool compared to the F2.
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 11:25am
| on the F2,there is a stop welded in place to position auger when unloading. Weld a new stop ahead of original. I wouldn't go more than 6in or so in difference at end or your u-joint won't like it. |
Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 2:58pm
| Just put a donut or 2 on the cylinder |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 9:28pm
| K gleaner is a manual swing out & lock it type unloader auger. If it is setup with 18.4-26 drive tires, it'll reach over a 8.5'-9.0' tall sides of wagon (most older 200-300 bu wagons). If 16.9-26 tires, then a little less height. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 9:31pm
| Either park the truck in a ditch or a make a hill for the combine! |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2017 at 5:51am
Yup real practical if your spread out over 20-30 fields. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
CrestonM wrote:Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2017 at 8:03am
Don't your fields have terraces? I've used those to get better clearance.
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Posted By: ACman 220
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2017 at 9:52am
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2017 at 10:05am
Well, when you have no choice but to make do, you make do. On either combine, wouldn't it be fairly simple to add an extension on to the unload auger so it reached a little farther and higher?
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2017 at 1:24pm
Yowch.... Even Shameless wouldn't poke with a stick that sharp!  But yeah...farmers are great at finding ways to make do. I knew an old guy once that back in the 40s had a new Farmall M, and the muffler was too tall for his barn door, so he just dug a depression in his dirt floor in the right spot, so when the narrow front end dipped in the hole, the muffler cleared the door! ACman 220...I hope your day gets better. Sounds like it's off to a rough start.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2017 at 1:31pm
Point made......but how many people with 20-30 fields would be looking for a Gleaner K at this point?
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Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2017 at 8:57pm
| Many areas of the country don't have terraced fields. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 6:43am
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Get rid of the wagon and buy a single axle truck. It'll reach that just fine and be much faster than the wagon even if you can only haul 260 bu. at a time vs 400. You can get a descent truck for the cost of an average older gravity box. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 6:58am
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Trucks are too expensive to insure here in ontario.. I have a limited budget and The wagons work good. I have a 400 and a 200 in a pair.. Maybe for corn It would be slow but works great for beans.. only problem is the tractor doesnt seem to go faster than 12-13mph As for the combine It was sold.. but found a Gleaner F2 long walker and hydraulic auger, 292 gas engine.. It would be nice to have 2 of the same machine to switch heads and what not. Is a Gas combine that bad to run? I always hear negative thoughts on them and how much gas they use but for my small amount It would probably be insignificant.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 6:58am
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Then you have another engine to take care of, battery to keep charged, etc. Lot's of choices to be made.
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Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 7:06am
| yes that is right.. I'm going to fix the other header too, Just seems like I'm broke down during the best weather so if I had 2 running machines I can keep going. I need to do better pre season maintenance so I minimize breakdowns I could have prevented. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 8:26am
| yep it sucks spending all the time it takes to fix all the little things after harvest so it's ready for next year,but next fall I'm glad I did... |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 9:33am
Nothing wrong with a backup machine. Even if you do good maintenance, freak break downs can still happen. The PO of my Super 100 used it a mere 10 years before getting a Gleaner E. He kept the 100 as a backup though, and did need it occasionally. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 11:57am
| if I flipped the spout up I could unload into a semi grain trailer (flat ground), my unload auger was also a manual fold type. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 12:11pm
| Nick...after we broke down on a Saturday evening one year, and nothing/nowhere to get parts the next day, we bought the little "K" I still have. bought it for a backup machine in case a breakdown happened again in years to come. and it did happen again, and that little K was a crop saver since we did have that problem in later years a couple times. one time we were able to finish up the next day with the backup machine just before a blizzard hit! it didn't always sit idle, even when harvesting with our bigger machine. several time when the dew set in in the evenings and stayed until late mornings, we could harvest corn with the big machine, and still harvest beans with the K when the dew was off, not having to change heads all the time. worked real well! and after seeing what we were doing by some of the neighbors, they too now have backup machines for "just in case"! the big green farmers don't have them, but they should...would sure beat waiting for the dealer to come re-program their combines when the computers take a dump! which has happened a lot this year by the 2 closest ones here! one lost a whole good day of harvesting because of that! |
Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 2:22pm
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yes I really am a big fan of having a backup or second machine.. Hate putting such a large amount of money into a crop and not getting it off. This F2 i'm going to look at would be great since the heads will fit both. Only thing is it's a gas compared to my cylinder diesel... Can't be that bad though?
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 2:37pm
| You commented about the fuel efficiency of gas versus diesel above, and indicated you didn't think you had enough acres to be too worried about it. I'm paraphrasing, so don't shoot! So if we take that at face value, the economy isn't enough to worry about. One thing I'd think over if I was you is what does storing the combine with the old gas in it, and or having gas around to put in it, mean to you? Gasoline these days doesn't keep for crap it seems. Will you be using the machine often enough and long enough to turn over the fuel in the tank or is the gas going to get old? Is your carb going to varnish? Will it be the backup or the main one? Do you want to fart around with Stabyl or whatever to help with the gasoline situation? |
Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 2:46pm
| good point.. didn't really think about that too much. The gas sucks now a days with the ethanol in it. I will take that into consideration. Would probably put stabilizer in it at the need of the season or something. I would much rather have the diesel to be honest. If I can get my header working might wait and see what comes up. Just annoying to be broke down, Last year it was the straw walkers went out right at the perfect harvest window. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 2:59pm
| nothing wrong with gas combines, I've had 5 of them thru the years. they do the same thing as the diesels do. some got good GPH, and some didn't do as good. on my 2 "G" combines, the V-8 got better GPH running than the 6 cyl one did. both ran the same heads. and we now have a lot of stations selling non ethanol gas at the pumps. I had a 100 gal tank with 12V pump in the back of my pickup for the combines. when done combining the remainder of the gas went to the lawn mowers. |
Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 9:55pm
yow AC220man,,,you was little harsh on my okie buddie there,,, I was gonna suggest a block to drive the left combine wheel on,, and/or park the wagon in a low spot,,,but since you have the better ideas,,,I wont say anything....
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 10:39pm
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Finally the plus sides of farming steep sidehill land,you have a machine you can tilt. Filled many a grain trailer with extensions when we cut safflower.Lean them over to make sure the auger dose not hit. As well as moving the header over a inch at a time by leaning it over to fit in all the little gates the ciydots had to put in to look pretty.
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 10:40pm
Thanks, Michael! Glad I'm not the only one that thought that.
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 1:55am
| how much is saving a crop worth compared to a few extra dollars in fuel? |
Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 5:47am
| no that's right.. A lot more money in the field even though it's a poor crop. Will take a look at the F2 and he has a M2 but I believe it's rough. Also a 540 and 550 Massey but I won't even go there haha |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 7:09am
Very true. My point about gasoline was only that it's something to consider. If he has the time to track down a diesel, it would be wise in my opinion. If he gets a screaming deal on a gasser, and doesn't mind farting around with plugs and carbs and coils and stabilizer and all that good stuff, go for it. If he has other gas equipment to use, that helps with the storage side of things.
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Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 7:35am
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If you cant keep combines inside out of the weather you will be working on them all the time. No sense having a spare machine if it sits outside in the weather 24-7. The worst thing you can do is leave them outside. ------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 7:40am
Very true! They'll rust out (among other things), and the John Deeres are particularly bad about that, from what I've seen. I always tell people if you are limited on barn room, make sure it's the combine or baler that gets put away.
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Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 12:05pm
| Sadly I keep all my equipment out side. I clean out the combine and put plywood over the bin and then a couple tarps over it... Best that I can do for a while |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 1:11pm
That's better than nothing.
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Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 1:46pm
| Not sure about a "k" but my "f" auger is higher then my M2 by about a foot and a half. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 3:29pm
| it's a toss up, keep them inside out of the weather, and the mice will take over! then again, I guess the mice will git them outside too! lol seems I can't buy enough mice repellant for the combine and tractor cabs, sooooo....one year I bought a bottle of peppermint extract at the food store, and just poured it all around inside the cab and down under the gear shifts. still smelled good at the next harvest and I didn't hafta re-wire nuthin that year! gonna use it again this fall. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 4:00pm
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I'm not going to say much, because if I do, the mice will surely invade our equipment. Lol I will say we've had the same "Fresh Cab" pouches in the combine, strippers, and grain trucks that grandpa picked up in the 80s or 90s from the local John Deere dealer. Pouch says replace every 3 months, but I guess they're still working? |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 8:20pm
Point made......but how many people with 20-30 fields would be looking for a Gleaner K at this point? [/QUOTETerraces? You would have to look long and hard to find a terrace in Michigan. Probably first terrace I saw was in Iowa and I bet I was in my mid 20's. We used the crown of the road sometimes to gain height. Toward the end we did 175 aces of corn, 60-75 acres of beans, 40-50 of wheat and a bit of red clover with the K. ] ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2017 at 5:12am
| Well Bought a M2 instead. Went to look at the F2 gas but was kind of rough shape.. Had a M2 hydro sitting there better condition, still not perfect but pretty good for me. had a new 15 foot flex head on it. Going to pick it up today. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2017 at 7:30am
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I still say it would be quite simple to extend an auger a couple feet, not a lot, but a foot or 2 would be pretty simple. And victory, I didn't bring up terraces.....but....growing into that many acres while you already have a K is one thing, having 20 or 30 fields and NOW looking for a K would be quite another. That's what I meant. Good luck with your new M2 nick.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2017 at 9:08am
| An M-2 unloader tube that is a foot-and-a-half lower than an F has some serious issues. There's something wrong with that picture.....small drive tires on the M-2 and huge drive tires on the F ?? or the unloader swivel on the M-2 is sagging badly (which could be) or it has the short unloader tube and the F has the optional long tube ?? |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2017 at 10:09am
| Well Nick it looks like everything has been covered. One thing I used to do was keep a small note pad with me and as things sounded a little wrong or I thought needed some attention I'd make myself a note to check, and that way when getting ready for harvest I didn't have to depend on my memory. |
Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2017 at 1:54pm
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yes thanks everyone for the input. Good for mentioning the notepad.. That would help me and I'm only 18 but easy to forget things haha. Hopefully this machine works good, needs some small stuff here and there/ wiring etc. Has a Deutz allis flex head with stainless floor but needs new plastic tines.. someone put them into the knives. Hopefully not terribly expensive for them but who knows. Hopefully get some pictures when Im harvesting to share with you guys
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