Oil/Lubricant ??

I made a 500 mile trip within MN about a week back - Jeep got 24 miles per gallon average over that trip . 
 Now if my vehicle had been electric it would have been a couple day trip as range is about 230 miles maximum for batteries . 
  My one dump truck gets 4 MPG average , the other it seems less . Wonder how big a battery it would take to move 50,000 or a 80,000 GVW total weight down the highway for any distance . Also how much the vehicle will weigh empty of cargo as you don't get paid for the weight of the truck - that's called liability or LOST INCOME 

FREEDGUY wrote: Again, I respect your sincere replies Lars. I'm not a "huge" fan of nuclear  myself, and I was unaware of the dam closures across the nation  . IMO, coal is almost as detrimental to the environment as nuclear power though

You have zero clue as to detrimental factors, been up Listening to Green Peace or some other tree hugger broadcasts. Worked within the nuclear power industry for 21 years, not a cleaner end result power supply out there where fuel reprocessing could keep those Base Load stations generating at a lower cost for decades and decades. It is the over hyped incidents due to poor forethought or idiots that have given that a black eye.
Are only Chernobyl type facilities in the Eastern Bloc nations, are few Boiling Water reactor stations in the US due to their inherent dirty traits but Japan found them conveniently cheap and fast to construct where placed other than within tsunami prone areas are still effective and efficient. As to wastes the exaggerations are anywhere across the boards as to mass illogical numbers that had they existed would fill an entire state the size of Texas, they do not.

Coke-in-MN wrote: Sure glad NO PETROLEUM will ever be needed for Electric Propelled vehicles - they are going to roll on bearings that need no lubrication through tires than need no base material , and the best part is they will travel on roads then use not petroleum to supply the materials , road bed grading , or surface material produced with no carbon based materials .  Asphalt will be eliminated, mining will be eliminated, and all electric vehicles will be able to go on long trips in any weather while the driver has no worry about battery going dead, heat inside the vehicle will be comfortable along with no traffic jams that will be caused by many vehicles being stalled after setting in the cold for a hour stalled in heavy traffic .   There is no POLITICS INVOLVED - Jut the facts .  But solar and wind will be the savior as every home , office, and vehicle uses them and the power grid has the capacity to handle it all .    Look at Texas for a good example of what happened when weather creates a new unexpected problem for heat and power.

Edited by FREEDGUY - 31 Oct 2021 at 6:16pm

Lars(wi) wrote: FREEDGUY wrote: I see your point about asphalt, my point was true crankcase oil pooling on top of the parking lot  . What is your point? If you don’t want to see oil spots on a parking space, just make sure your vehicle doesn’t ever have a drip, and don’t be looking at empty parking spaces. That’s all you can do. Don’t get all bent out of shape on things you have absolutely no control over.

 

We can always ‘progress’ back to whale oil, or coal oil.

I don’t live in Illinois, thank goodness.

Until petroleum was found as having such excellent lubrication properties whale oil and animal tallow were used with less than stellar results. Wagon axles used beef tallow and often burnt up bearing surfaces as the tallow would not remain stable enough in temperature variants. Early steam engines then fuel consuming IC engines would not have been plausible without Coal oils or Petroleum, both of which are essentially organic.

Fuel and lubricant oils are already being produced synthesizing Algae after growing that algae using CO2 from a combustion process, the uber green sector are suppressing said technology due to Climate Change Theories which were also Global Warming theories and were as wrong in the 60s and 70s as the current volumes of dispatched bad math will end up.

Was reading a counter article on CC where the ‘Math’ had to be adjusted recently to keep the Temp C values rising when actually showed lowering. Science, it is what a scientist wishes to make it until proved incorrect.   Climate Models are only as accurate as the data loaded, is an overwhelming volume of data the Climate Gurus will not add into the machines as sends them into overload so cherry pick those aspects to make themselves feel correct.

These people just don’t realize the infrastructure for EV, is not there yet. It will be decades before it would be anywhere’s close to the anticipate demand, if was even a ‘all hands on deck’ approach.

and i will say AGAIN.........

If gassy could hook this contraption up to both ends, not only would he make ends meet, But he would be self propelled, too!

DMiller wrote: Metro STL finally got their New ALL Electric Battery Buses charged, all four of them.  They now have a Substation at ever garage/district site lot for Four Buses, the stations can ONLY Handle Four Buses being charged are separate from the buildings supply substations and dedicated ONLY to charging the buses.  The minimum bus parking is for 20 buses, the max as at the Corporate General Office/Main Garage area is for 60, so for ALL Electrics in the system will need 4 additional Substations at the more limited sites(Three) and fourteen additional at the larger sites(Four) as the buses take 3-5 hours to charge, charge too fast and the batteries overheat shutting down the recharge, too slow is not a problem, all that for a six hour routine daily route.  The cost for power to feed these exceeds that ability to recapture by ridership moneys by a factor of four.  They will still need Brakes, tires, suspension and structural work where no longer need oil changes yet will still need lubricants and coolants for the subsystems.

You can bet that KC will be next with this great plan to augment those electric trolleys that they call a big success although they don’t charge to ride so zero revenue. What chaps me is they raised our gas tax, (even though we voted it down repeatedly for good reasons), and that’s where a chunk of it will go. And then they are telling us we need toll roads to pay for needed improvements, “make those that use it pay for it,” is what they are saying but evidently that doesn’t apply to the electric transportation.