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What is a “Tobacco Special” 180?
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    Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 12:42pm
A 180 is for sale locally being advertised as a “tobacco special”. What is the TS? Some quick responses on Facebook came up with wider axles, lower, and slower gears. The one advertised doesn’t look any wider or lower in the pictures. How can I properly identify a TS?
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Do you know the size of the rear tires?

I'm thinking a high crop, with 38" rears.
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One comment on Facebook claimed they are 38” rears with tall front tires. Pics don’t appear to be 38s but there’s some debate on originality of the advertised tractor
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The 6000 series had a wide axle option - the only Tobacco word I remember..associated with tractors.
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Its been years ago but I have seen 180 and I think 185 tractors with the Tobacco Special
decal on them at auctions in NC.Can't remember what tires they had.
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maybe just a clever way to explain that it smokes...Wink
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I have seen them in NC. I thought they had tall front Spindles and 15.5x38's for working tobacco plants.

Edited by Charlie175 - 14 Aug 2019 at 7:32am
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Mine has 15.5x38s. I didn't know it was special.
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This particular one advertised has 18.4-30 rear tires on 5 rib spin out rims. Front spindles appear to be normal in the pics but I don’t know what sort of a variation we are looking for.   It also has a black dash cover, and a shallow front grill screen. Does this make it a late model or parts from a 185? Most seem do have an orange dash cover in pics? It also has a tall air cleaner stack above the hood, which seems to be hit or miss in pics of 180s.

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Sounds like it could be a more desirable 185. Look at the housing just behind the frame to see what is stamped on it. 30” was more common on the 185’s, I didn’t know they were even available on a 180?
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Originally posted by marzer marzer wrote:

Mine has 15.5x38s. I didn't know it was special.



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Looks close. Sounds the same. Just wish if could have sneaked out with console control...
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My 180 came with 15.5/38 tears and 7.50 /20 fronts ordered to cultivate tomatoes
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We have one here pretty local to us that we worked on last winter that I would call it a tobacco special, not sure if they were ever labeled that, but I know I've seen others like this that were referred to as tobacco specials.  It actually had a tag on it from Vause Implement which I believe is or was in North Carolina so it came from down south.  It has 15.5-38 rears, tall front spindles and a canopy with a roof.
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The guy I bought my first piece of land from had a tobacco special. We are a very long drive from a tobacco field and I am not sure how or why it ended up in this part of the country. I don't remember much about it other than it had been beaten regularly and had the tobacco special decal on it somewhere. This was 35 years ago. Possibly was ordered for use on a potato farm originally or to pull a pea harverter. That's about the only reason I can think of for a higher clearance tractor here at that time.
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Picture is def a 180- looks like I mis-posted in 2009 - the tobacco special 185 was a late model - most had 18.4's but some had the 38" and even spacers for the rears. The side front axle option was what was special. The 6000 series also had the 96" front axle and spacers for the rears - used for vegetable and tobacco mostly. 
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