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Topic: What is a “Tobacco Special” 180?
Posted By: 59f100292
Subject: What is a “Tobacco Special” 180?
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 12:42pm
A 180 is for sale locally being advertised as a “tobacco special”. What is the TS? Some quick responses on Facebook came up with wider axles, lower, and slower gears. The one advertised doesn’t look any wider or lower in the pictures. How can I properly identify a TS?



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Posted By: frnkeore
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 1:13pm
Do you know the size of the rear tires?

I'm thinking a high crop, with 38" rears.


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Posted By: 59f100292
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 2:41pm
One comment on Facebook claimed they are 38” rears with tall front tires. Pics don’t appear to be 38s but there’s some debate on originality of the advertised tractor


Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 10:50pm
The 6000 series had a wide axle option - the only Tobacco word I remember..associated with tractors.

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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 2:54am
Its been years ago but I have seen 180 and I think 185 tractors with the Tobacco Special
decal on them at auctions in NC.Can't remember what tires they had.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 4:32am
maybe just a clever way to explain that it smokes...Wink

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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 7:14am
I have seen them in NC. I thought they had tall front Spindles and 15.5x38's for working tobacco plants.

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Posted By: marzer
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 9:42am
Mine has 15.5x38s. I didn't know it was special.



Posted By: 59f100292
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 10:26am
This particular one advertised has 18.4-30 rear tires on 5 rib spin out rims. Front spindles appear to be normal in the pics but I don’t know what sort of a variation we are looking for.   It also has a black dash cover, and a shallow front grill screen. Does this make it a late model or parts from a 185? Most seem do have an orange dash cover in pics? It also has a tall air cleaner stack above the hood, which seems to be hit or miss in pics of 180s.


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 10:48am
Sounds like it could be a more desirable 185. Look at the housing just behind the frame to see what is stamped on it. 30” was more common on the 185’s, I didn’t know they were even available on a 180?


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 12:06pm
Originally posted by marzer marzer wrote:

Mine has 15.5x38s. I didn't know it was special.



Marzer: Did your 190 take the short bus from the factory?🙀

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Posted By: marzer
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 12:44pm
Looks close. Sounds the same. Just wish if could have sneaked out with console control...


Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 1:47pm
My 180 came with 15.5/38 tears and 7.50 /20 fronts ordered to cultivate tomatoes

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