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Lonn 
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 Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 6:48am |
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BobHnwO
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 7:22am |
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Lonn or Jeff???
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Lonn
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 7:24am |
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Wendell(OK/TX)
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Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 12:29am |
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Referred to as "interference fit" by my college instructor. Basically the "peak" and "valley" of the threads come closer to an actual "V" than to the "U" of standard hardware that you would see if looking at them when magnified. Small difference but a noticeable difference in contact surface between the bolt and nut, hence less chance of it coming loose. First time I've heard of it in years.
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TomYaz
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Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 6:01am |
 Wendell(OK/TX) wrote:
Referred to as "interference fit" by my college instructor. Basically the "peak" and "valley" of the threads come closer to an actual "V" than to the "U" of standard hardware that you would see if looking at them when magnified. Small difference but a noticeable difference in contact surface between the bolt and nut, hence less chance of it coming loose. First time I've heard of it in years.
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Well I got the finer thread nuts from AGCO today...They will screw on now, but are snug. Came across some original fine thread nuts used on this pin (figures)..they screw on a lot looser. So seems to me I have experienced the three types of fine thread...wont fit, fits tight, and fits loose...
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Dusty MI
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Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 6:43am |
Wendell(OK/TX) wrote:
Referred to as "interference fit" by my college instructor. Basically the "peak" and "valley" of the threads come closer to an actual "V" than to the "U" of standard hardware that you would see if looking at them when magnified. Small difference but a noticeable difference in contact surface between the bolt and nut, hence less chance of it coming loose. First time I've heard of it in years.
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Wendell, do know the difference in the shape of the treads between 5/8-18 NFT and 3/8-18 NPS ? They are about the same OD.
Thanks, Dusty
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Ted J
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Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 7:42am |
TomYaz wrote:
So seems to me I have experienced the three types...wont fit, fits tight, and fits loose... |
Sounds like my Ex-wife. She had fits too. LOL Where else can you learn all these things on the net?! I had no idea! And like Glen, I blamed it on the cheap Chinese tap & die set.
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TomYaz
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Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 7:59am |
Ted J wrote:
[QUOTE=TomYaz]So seems to me I have experienced the three types...wont fit, fits tight, and fits loose... |
>>Sounds like my Ex-wife. She had fits too. LOL
Wow, for a second there, I thought you were going into a really off-color remark LOL!
>>Where else can you learn all these things on the net?! I had no idea!
Me neither.. An observation...the original nuts I found, the loosest of the three, was a castle nut (with a cotter pin of course)...but it was superseded by a non-castle nut that I just got and it is tighter. I suppose the tighter replacement nut was to replace the use of the castle nut/ cotter pin arrangement. Hmm so what should I use...the castle/cotter combo or the replacement?
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Dipstick In
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Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 8:18am |
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It's easier to trade nuts and cheaper to find a "fit" than wives! Just my opinion.
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Ted J
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Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 11:14am |
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Went to Fastenal to get some castle nuts that I needed. They don't have them in stock, can order. Well, guess what? They want to charge you shipping on anything that is ordered. NOT even a special order. AND they WON'T ship it to you, only to the store. Needless to say, I am NOT doing anymore business with Fastenal. Was about $8 to get a simple 1/2" castle nut. Ordered from Farm & Fleet and cost me two days and $1.25.
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TomYaz
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Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 11:36am |
Ted J wrote:
Went to Fastenal to get some castle nuts that I needed. They don't have them in stock, can order. Well, guess what? They want to charge you shipping on anything that is ordered. NOT even a special order. AND they WON'T ship it to you, only to the store. Needless to say, I am NOT doing anymore business with Fastenal. Was about $8 to get a simple 1/2" castle nut. Ordered from Farm & Fleet and cost me two days and $1.25. |
Im not keen on Fastenal either; didnt like the clerks attitude
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Flint23
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Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 1:04pm |
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Is that what A/C means by special bolt?
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been there done that, not doing it again...
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Clay
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Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 7:26pm |
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All depends on the Fastenal store. The one in Derby, Ks. is ok but not as friendly as the one in Arkansas City, Kansas. Those people have always been great to deal with and very helpful.
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Dusty MI
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Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 2:44pm |
I find Mid-State Nut and Bolt much easier to deal with. Just do a search.
Dusty
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 3:13pm |
I needed 4 metric bolts for the brake master cylinder on my Norton, went to fastenall and they said they would order them in $2.00 each and minimum shipping $10. Said I would like to get socket head cap screws, they said it would take 2 weeks to get there .. Went over to fleet farm store across the street (Hudson WI) they had the screws in stock in bulk, (hex head) cost .78 cents each for 4, then I bought 4 which were a shade longer also those were .97 cents. Earlier on from Fastenall I got 4 thread coils for thread repair , cost .60 each and when I went to pick them up 5 days later they told me about shipping charge then of $8.00 + cost of coils.
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