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farmboycitygirl 
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 10:24am |
Hey guys need some help. My son is going to start mowing hay with me this next year. He has been raking for the last couple of years. I want to start him on a sickle mower/cond and don't want something real expensive since he has never mowed before (you never know with 9+ foot hanging out to the side of the tractor). I seen a couple of not so good post (on this site) on a new holland 489 so I thought I would ask would you all what you use and recommend. Thanks in advance for the help.
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KGood
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 12:54pm |
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Just make sure the wobble box is tight. It's about a $1000 for a reman one and they aren't that fun to change. I've been noticing a different series of older NH binds that have a simple offset over bearings for a wobble mechanisem out in the open easy to service that I am going to look into if I go bigger than my 474. By the way the 489 I got for parts takes up the whole road if that matters to you. Some people had good luck with that syle just check yours over better than I did mine.
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HagerAC
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 2:31pm |
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We've got an old 479, works pretty good considering its basically worn out.
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Teddy (punchie)
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 6:16pm |
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I have a NH 477 , I can run nicely with the wd and in thicker hay I have to run slow. But 100 Bales acre I run in 3rd. , and that is on some steeper hills too. In thick wet hay she will pack full and that is a pain, but I'm talking 140-150 bales to acre or 2.75 tons to acre. Nice size to move down the road. You can still get parts for it.
Edited by Teddy (punchie) - 19 Dec 2011 at 6:17pm
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bakwoodsfarm
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 7:39pm |
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We've been running a 488 for about 10 years with no big problems, check out the wobble box good, and keep it greased. They are a bit wide for road transport.
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DaveCinIN
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 9:09pm |
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After buying a Hesston 1060 discbine, I can't figure out why anyone ever made a sickle mower. I can mow alfalfa as fast as the 190XT will go and it never plugs up and it cuts really clean. I have a JD sickle MOCO sitting here but don't intend to ever use it again.
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Dannyhtn
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Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 11:38pm |
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I know sickle mowers and disc mowers but what is a discbine
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stray
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 5:31pm |
 Dannyhtn wrote:
I know sickle mowers and disc mowers but what is a discbine |
It is a trailing type disc mower with conditioning rollers or flails in it.
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NickT(Ky)
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 7:41pm |
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I agree with Dave on the discbine. Having said that I have a 488 NH that is a good machine in average (not thick) hay. Can cut 6 mph in alfalfa with it. Go 8 with a GEHL discbine.
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BLee Mn
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 7:50pm |
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I run a 499 NH and have had good luck with it, doesnt like wet pocket gopher mounds though
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Teddy (punchie)
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 7:59pm |
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Not sure about prices where you guys are. A disc mower around here start at 3500 and go up from there, average around 5000. For me to go a little faster and do just a bit better of a job not worth it, most of the fields I do you would be getting into trouble going 6 MPH. In time I may get one for second cutting, but for now I'll use the 1000-1500 haybine.
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captaindana
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 8:32pm |
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Likewise I want and need a discbine. But for now I ave a 489 and all income goes into pocket not paying for new to me equipment. lol But I want a discbine!
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DaveCinIN
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 11:22pm |
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I bought my Hesston discbine at an auction for $2300. Best buy I have made. I hated constantly unplugging that JD MOCO. With the JD, I mowed at about 4 MPH. With the discbine, I mow at about 10 MPH. Less than half the time actually mowing.
Edited by DaveCinIN - 20 Dec 2011 at 11:31pm
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