Hay Mowers
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Topic: Hay Mowers
Posted By: farmboycitygirl
Subject: Hay Mowers
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 10:24am
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Hey guys need some help. My son is going to start mowing hay with me this next year. He has been raking for the last couple of years. I want to start him on a sickle mower/cond and don't want something real expensive since he has never mowed before (you never know with 9+ foot hanging out to the side of the tractor). I seen a couple of not so good post (on this site) on a new holland 489 so I thought I would ask would you all what you use and recommend. Thanks in advance for the help.
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Posted By: KGood
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 12:54pm
| Just make sure the wobble box is tight. It's about a $1000 for a reman one and they aren't that fun to change. I've been noticing a different series of older NH binds that have a simple offset over bearings for a wobble mechanisem out in the open easy to service that I am going to look into if I go bigger than my 474. By the way the 489 I got for parts takes up the whole road if that matters to you. Some people had good luck with that syle just check yours over better than I did mine. |
Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 2:31pm
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We've got an old 479, works pretty good considering its basically worn out. ------------- 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52 |
Posted By: Teddy (punchie)
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 6:16pm
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I have a NH 477 , I can run nicely with the wd and in thicker hay I have to run slow. But 100 Bales acre I run in 3rd. , and that is on some steeper hills too. In thick wet hay she will pack full and that is a pain, but I'm talking 140-150 bales to acre or 2.75 tons to acre. Nice size to move down the road. You can still get parts for it. ------------- Ac D-19, a Number of WD's, One WD45, Two 444 balers, Ac plows and etc. |
Posted By: bakwoodsfarm
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 7:39pm
| We've been running a 488 for about 10 years with no big problems, check out the wobble box good, and keep it greased. They are a bit wide for road transport. |
Posted By: DaveCinIN
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 9:09pm
| After buying a Hesston 1060 discbine, I can't figure out why anyone ever made a sickle mower. I can mow alfalfa as fast as the 190XT will go and it never plugs up and it cuts really clean. I have a JD sickle MOCO sitting here but don't intend to ever use it again. |
Posted By: Dannyhtn
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 11:38pm
| I know sickle mowers and disc mowers but what is a discbine |
Posted By: stray
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 5:31pm
It is a trailing type disc mower with conditioning rollers or flails in it.
------------- 1969 190XT series 3 |
Dannyhtn wrote:Posted By: NickT(Ky)
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 7:41pm
| I agree with Dave on the discbine. Having said that I have a 488 NH that is a good machine in average (not thick) hay. Can cut 6 mph in alfalfa with it. Go 8 with a GEHL discbine. |
Posted By: BLee Mn
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 7:50pm
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I run a 499 NH and have had good luck with it, doesnt like wet pocket gopher mounds though ------------- Cowboy UP |
Posted By: Teddy (punchie)
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 7:59pm
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Not sure about prices where you guys are. A disc mower around here start at 3500 and go up from there, average around 5000. For me to go a little faster and do just a bit better of a job not worth it, most of the fields I do you would be getting into trouble going 6 MPH. In time I may get one for second cutting, but for now I'll use the 1000-1500 haybine.
------------- Ac D-19, a Number of WD's, One WD45, Two 444 balers, Ac plows and etc. |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 8:32pm
| Likewise I want and need a discbine. But for now I ave a 489 and all income goes into pocket not paying for new to me equipment. lol But I want a discbine! |
Posted By: DaveCinIN
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 11:22pm
| I bought my Hesston discbine at an auction for $2300. Best buy I have made. I hated constantly unplugging that JD MOCO. With the JD, I mowed at about 4 MPH. With the discbine, I mow at about 10 MPH. Less than half the time actually mowing. |