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a jossund 
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Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 4:49pm |
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Im installing a PTO from a 1937 WC on my 1936 WC that was not previously equiped. However I feel I might be missing some of the parts. I am using the fixed drawbar with spacer part number 216070. I have to fabricate the strap that holds the drawbar up to the support, when i hold the drawbar up to the support i can not fully contact the support becasue the spacer hits the drain plug on the rear end, is there suposed to be a gap between the drawbar and support? Also when I bolted the hanger bearing up under the platform the PTO shaft rubs on the fulcrum plate for the hitch. Looking in my part book it shows a PTO sheild, part number 21049 or 210492, was one of these used on an unstlyed WC? If anyone could shed some light on the subject or post some pictures of there WC PTO, I would really appricate it, thanks!
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Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 5:43pm |
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need the draw bar mount with the hole for the pto- shaft goe's through same as a styled tractor
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Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 7:38pm |
Here is the page out of the parts book showing the hitch I have. While it says after 1944, it was previously mounted on a 1937 ( im suspecting a later replacement?) 
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Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 7:39pm |
Here is a picture of the hitch I'm assuming to be correct? 
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Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 7:40pm |
here is the hitch im working with 
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Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 7:49pm |
in regaurds to the PTO hanger bearing, where the gap is here between the pillow block and the platform, should there be a spacer or the shield? 
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Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 6:22pm |
I think there are two drawbar setups? One is a "C" shaped thing, and one like this, where the shaft actually goes through the drawbar. Here is what I did to make it work with what I had. If anyone knows what is supposed to be in there instead of the washers, let us know! 
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Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 7:20pm |
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Thanks for the reply! your drawbar is the other style in the parts book, thanks for the good pic! thats what im thinking ill have to do with my pto bearing to keep the shaft from rubbing, unless someone can let us know how there suposed to be
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Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 6:00am |
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I have a NOS PTO shield for a WC/WF/RC available if you're needing one.
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Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 8:20am |
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Do you know what year tractor it came off, or what years used that sheild?
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Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 7:11pm |
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I have a 37 restored and a 36? Parts. Both have the C shaped bracket and don't run through the drawbar.
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 10:43am |
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My draw bar support hole was torched out when the PTO was added.
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 7:05pm |
There was a drawbar attachment made for the WC tractor that had a C or U shaped adapter that fit around the PTO shaft and made the WC drawbar to meet ASAE specifications. I do not have a picture of it but it had another drawbar that bolted to the original drawbar and made it ASAE suitable. I do not have a picture and words are just not enough to completely describe it. Is there a picture out there of this type of drawbar attachment? If so can you post it so it will help JOSSUND see what is needed. Thanks in advance Good Luck! Bill Lond
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 7:35pm |
Bill, this is the one my WC had on it, not sure if that's what you're describing or not - 
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 9:08pm |
Wouldn't the "C" shaped one actually give you a little room to swing the drawbar as well? Good thought on the ASAE spec. I think one is drawbar height from the floor, PTO shaft height from the floor, and PTO shaft distance from the hole in the drawbar (forward). I set my drawbar to 15" off the floor, PTO 22" off the floor, and PTO shaft 14" in front of the drawbar hole. Actually didn't get a chance to hook the brush hog up yet. Here is the long winded topic on the 36 I did over the last year. The PTO stuff is on page 4. Maybe it will help. http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=113417&KW=assembly&PN=1&title=finally-got-my-wc-some-assembly-required
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Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 8:08am |
Thanks for the help guys, my hitch (it’s hard to see in that
small picture) is the ASAE spec hitch with the C shaped piece mounted to what
Allis called the rigid drawbar in the parts book. In the book it says effective in 1944 but
given oldways tractors both have the same hitch perhaps it was available earlier?
JoeM(GA) , that’s similar to my hitch except that is what Allis called the
swinging drawbar, thanks for the pics! Does your hitch touch the drain plug in
the rear end when it is straight back?
Also is your rear hanger bearing for the PTO bolted directly to the platform? Thanks!
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Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 8:38am |
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Andrew, mine misses the plug, and there was nothing under my flange, it was bolted directly to the plate
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Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 8:55am |
Joe, As ever, Exactly right. That is precisely what I was looking for. In fact when I visited OK Tractor display at Coming Home one had just been sold to a customer. In the back you take the existing drawbar and attach it to the new drawbar that attaches to the C adapter. The hook up is exactly like in the picture JOSSUND is showing. Sorry, with the holiday season I have been running around and have not had time to research my library to see if I have better pictures. Thanks to all who posted to assist. Will be back later if I can find better documentation. Good Luck! Bill Long
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