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JC-WI 
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 Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 8:38am |
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They sure don't want you running old stuff anymore.
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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."
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JimIA
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Location: Castalia Iowa
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Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 8:39am |
 jaybmiller wrote:
Agco wanted $63 for the D-14 manifold gasket......I bought elsewhere for $10 AND got the carb gasket as well !!
it really does pay to 'shop around'...
Jay
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My price is $46.70 on that gasket. I guess I will be making another call to AGCO and tell them they need to fix that price! As Albert said there are some dealers that put way to much on their parts too. Which is too bad. We are suggested list and will stay suggested list.
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Chris (swIA)
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Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 10:44am |
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You have to shop around. I needed a cross and bearing for a u-joint on a Bush Hog with a B and P driveline last year. Found it a the local Deere dealer for a quarter of the price and no shipping. Some of the problem is some BTOs just call and get it without regard to price. The little guy has to watch the money closer.
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Allis dave
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Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 11:00am |
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I've had AGCO dealers run part locaters for me a lot. I've bought several obsolete parts that way. I've had more than one run the locators.
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Dmpaul89
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Location: Edwardsville,IL
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Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 11:32am |
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Yeah I've done the parts locater too. Thing that ticked me off was they found a dealer with the part, I call dealer, they dig around in the attic for a while, say they've had the part 20 years, I ask how much and they give the current retail price. Even though the msrp may have been half the cost when they got it.
Ok on hard parts the age doesn't matter, but were talking about rubber gaskets and stuff that can potentially deteriorate, and should be sold at discount or at least the original price...
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 12:19pm |
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In that article the CPA suggested that parts on the shelf a few years should be priced at 5 or 6 times their original cost.
hahahaha...
really ? Obvious the CPA has NEVER ever worked in the REAL World ! parts on the shelf that long should be discounted 80-100% to GET RID OF THEM ! They're taking up valuable space, space that SHOULD be MAKING money NOT costing more. I got a killer deal on Lexan Twinwall Polycarb sheeting. Miscuts, stored 'on the shelf', about 3000 sq ft of it for the cost of shipping after I said...you could use that space for real products that MAKE you money... mgr agreed. he calls me every so often asking if I need anything !
Also the CPS doesn't know about 'turns'. It means how often and when to reorder stock based upon sales. I cut BASIC code 40 years ago on a TRS80 to help local hobby shop. He made an extra 15-20% in just a few months,paid me in RC toys,beer and pizza !
Finally... I bought a NEW master cylinder for my 57 Willys PU one day, counter guy says $200, I said $75 as it had an inch of dust on it and asked him WHEN was the last ime he sold one? If you sell me this NOW, you can use the space for better sellers. I got it for $75.
Two other things I KNOW
1) you can't sell it, if it's NOT out on display
2) you can't sell it, if it's over priced
Jay
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 3:22pm |
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Picked up both the ALT and Starter rebuilt today. $150 for the starter $50 for the Alternator. To think I drove by the Starter and Alternator shop on my way to the AGCO dealer 60 miles up the road. Glad as heck I stopped in on the way home.
Tomorrow when it's cool I will put the parts back on the Little Massy and put it back to working .
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180Puller
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Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 6:02pm |
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Theres a guy about 30 miles from me that rebuilds starters...He's very honest and very reasonable...He often saves people lots of money..Several times all he's done to mine is clean them up and charges $20-25..
Edited by 180Puller - 25 Aug 2016 at 6:06pm
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 7:48pm |
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Over the years one thing most all tractor/equipment dealerships that went out of business had one thing in common at their sale lots of parts from way back that never sold.
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 10:24pm |
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NOS New Old Stock
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Tcmtech
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Posted: 26 Aug 2016 at 2:56am |
Gerald J. wrote:
Try Baum Hydraulics for the cylinder seals. http://www.baumhydraulics.com
In that article the CPA suggested that parts on the shelf a few years should be priced at 5 or 6 times their original cost.
I have felt its a feeling that the parts are occupying space that they feel should have holding gold bullion rising in value like farm land prices over the past 25 years.
Gerald J.
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Not much different than the typical scraper/salvage yard operators.
If it's hard to find and you need it it's worth anywhere from 50 - 200+% of its former new price even if though it's clearly 50 -90% worn out.
I had this chat with one of the workers at one of our more local salvage yards not to long ago.
---------- anyways, as for our local place, for as long as I can remember I hated going there just because of the rip off prices they had on worn out stuff that I know damn well from first hand experience bidding against the guy at auctions he didn't get for pennies on the dollar. My first experience with him years ago was while bidding on an old square baler we wanted for parts. He outbid me at something like $200. I let him have it for that figure that he was just parting it out anyway and I could get the parts for less. I tracked him down later and asked if he was parting it out and of course he was so I asked if he would sell me the few parts I needed. Sure he would! $400 and I had to pull them myself before his guy load it up and took it back with them.
His comment was, "A guys gotta make money you know. Take it or leave it." and he walked away. ----------
Fortunately the guy working there that day knew the stories like meine way too well and gave me the stuff I wanted for less than what the online guys wanted.
For a place where 5 years ago a guy had to stand in line to get help I was there for over an hour and I think I was probably the only customer on the property.
Sounds like the owners own greed came back around to bite them in the ass now that most everyone has internet and that gives them access to salvage dealers who are professional businessman that run highly competitive business operations. If they want $500 for an old gear from some old tractor they have had sitting in their cluttered shelves for who knows how long and a business online has the same gear all clean and neatly organized for $150 but takes 3 - 4 days and $50 in shipping to get who do you suppose is going to get the business?
Heck yea, I'll wait 3 - 4 days to get a clean good condition gear that comes with a warranty over some old dirty crusty one that sells 'as is where is' for over 3x the price.
Edited by Tcmtech - 26 Aug 2016 at 10:47am
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Clay
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Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 7:40am |
I have had very good results with DB Electrical. Very reasonable.
http://www.dbelectrical.com/
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Snowbusman
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Posted: 13 Oct 2016 at 7:25am |
Hello, I'm up here in Canada and also looking for parts for the Cessna Rotary Swing Cylinder. Its on a Massey Ferguson 54A backhoe attachment. I need 1 only wave washer P/N 1031690M1 and two springs P/N 1031689. You mentioned you found a foreign supplier. Can you help me? Bob
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nella(Pa)
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Posted: 13 Oct 2016 at 7:43am |
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Dealer wanted 165$ for a coil in the B magneto, got one from Steve at B&B for 69$ along with a lot of help.
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john(MI)
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Posted: 14 Oct 2016 at 9:12am |
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Should told them you'd be right back, you had to go home and paint the tractor green
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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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Tcmtech
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Posted: 14 Oct 2016 at 9:26am |
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These examples are exactly why I look at how something is engineered and designed so that if needed it can be either completely eliminated or redesigned to use a more common far cheaper and possibly even better alternative component in its place.
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