What y'all run for loaders.......

on 8000 series front wheel assists? I tried a Leon 808 on my 8070 for a while, and it just didn't hold up, and I certainly didn't abuse it. But holding back 175 horses of FWA is a pretty big under taking for a loader that was more or less designed in the "2 wheel drive only" era, and then retro fitted to fit a front wheel assist. I have this 8070, and also a 9755 Agco FWA, both about 175 horse tractors, and my operation right now doesn't even need one tractor in that size range, much less two of em. One of em probably needs to become a loader tractor, and one of em has to go. I'd dearly love to keep the 8070 and put a loader on it, and sell the Agco, but I know I can find a good loader for the Agco, but I am not so sure about the 8070. I really should get over the love affair with the 8070 and let it go, because from a practical stand point, the Agco would make a better loader tractor, with the shuttle shift and all, and the obvious; being 15 years newer. Haven't had much luck selling the Agco anyway. Getting rid of both of em for a descent 130 to 140 horse FWA loader tractor would probably even be the best option. Any hope for me.....? Thanks, Darrel

What are your needs for a loader?  Maybe sell both and buy a payloader or telehandler?  Especially if you have no need for a tractor that size, why try to make a tractor do what a payloader or telehandler is DESIGNED to do?

I have a quickie loader on my case 5240 100hp 4 wd. It seems to have held up well for what I am sure was an abusive loader tractor life before I bought it. But to be honest if you need a loader on something 100 hp or over and you use it more then just a little then I agree get a pay loader. Tractor loaders are ment for the oh I need to move a load of gravel to fix my road again this spring not oh I need to run a gravel pit for the next month.
What I like about the loader on my case is it is totally out of the way of the front tires. Alot of the farm loaders I have seen will hit the front drive tires in a turn the frame just runs in the way.

Cowkicker, sounds like a 790 allied is what I should be in the hunt for. I do have a payloader, but it's nice to have another good loader tractor besides. I do not use a tractor loader for payloader type work. It mostly just handles round bales, like for loading them out in the field. It's much easier to road a tractor to the hayfield than a payloader. If'n the loader is pretty easy to get on and off, I can go to a hayfield, take the loader off and bale with it in the morning, and put the loader back on and bunch the bales with it in the afternoon. Neighbor does that; works well. Darrel

Juat wondering, why would you take the loader to bale hay?

Also, if it's an alfalfa field, you do it to get the bales out of the way for the next cutting. Darrel

cowkicker wrote: Sorry, meant to ask why you take the loader "off of the tractor" to bale hay.

You ever try looking around one of them things they make a much better wall then window. And that bale spike sticks way out there.

Edited by Dan73 - 30 Nov 2016 at 9:12pm

I put a quick hitch on my d15. It has the bucket off unless I am actually using it. During the haying season it keeps the grapple on it but that is because the counter weight is a pain to take off so it stays setup for the grapple loading. But if the loader or bucket comes off easy I take then off to make it easier to get around doing field work.

Massey 4610 FWA with Massey 931x loader.

HudCo wrote: some of those loaders go on and off as fast as hooking to the draw bar,

That is how it is with the quickie loaders and why I mentioned it. The only thing I don't know is if it will come off without the bucket. There are two support arms you put on by the bucket that make a 3 point support at the front so if you have a bale loader or other attachment on the loader i don't know how it would sit on the ground. But it is easy with the bucket just put the two legs on pull the two pins pick it up off the tractor frame with hydraulic controls and unhook the hydraulics all done.

Dad would always take the loader off his D17 to plant or drill or bale. That was when there wasn't any sort of quick attach. You get used to doing it. Chain hanging from tree branch and a couple of 4x4 the right length.......... alright it kinda blew but we did it. Used to also removed and reinstalled the snow bucket, which was built around the manure bucket, almost everyday in the winter. The snow bucket not only moved snow but was used to bucket silage through the side door into the barn. Then everyday we'd also remove the entire bucket to put on a bale spear. All this with out any quick attach. Used a couple crow bars to slide it around to line up pins and, in the case of the snow bucket, bolts. Not to mention that rascally dirt plate that took so much abuse. And remember we did that all through those blasted cold Minnesota winters!

Oh and the loader was a round pipe frame Vaughn. It was a good loader for it's day. Still have it on that D17.


Edited by Lonn - 01 Dec 2016 at 2:52pm

Lonn I did alot of the swap buckets on cement with the 4 pins and bars as well. What I learned from it was that if I was paying the bills I was willing to pay for the quick hitch. To me it is a case of yes it works but I would rather work smart not hard. It is much easier to drive up curl the bucket and raise it a little and it slides right onto the mount. Then get off and pull the two latches and done. Worse case you put it back down back up and move to one side and try again.   Way easier then the 4 pins and man handling it with bars. Much less chance of getting hurt to when you are in the tractor seat moving the levers watching. It took two attempts to get the quick hitch right on my d15 but I am very happy I did.

Edited by Dan73 - 01 Dec 2016 at 3:54pm

hmm.  this wont help much but RT100A with CVT